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Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« on: January 26, 2011, 03:56:41 PM »
Below are some plants from the Swiss Alps and while I might have a good shot at naming some of them I am not entirely sure and ask your help with their names.

My apologies if I am imposing on your patience. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2011, 03:58:25 PM »
I attempted to upload too many images in one post and, so, have the remainder here.
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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2011, 04:14:33 PM »
pic 0105 should be geum montanum
pic 0171 viola biflora
pic 0178 silene acaulis ( ssp.longiscapa?)
pic 0225 viola calcarata ( to confirm by other opinions)
pic 0256 adenostyles, probably alliariae.
pic 0307 vaccinium vitis-idaea
pic 0388 cirsium spinosissimum
pic 0491 silene vulgaris ( possibly ssp prostrata if very low, what doesn't seem to be the case on the pic)

On the pic 0117, a potentilla, but which one??? Aurea comes me in mind, but there are so many looking so close to each other.
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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2011, 04:22:32 PM »
Phillippe,

You are a treasure. Many thanks indeed. Greatly appreciated. Paddy
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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2011, 08:48:20 PM »
Imposing once again on your patience and your knowledge, perhaps I could request help with identification on the following. Paddy
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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2011, 08:50:52 PM »
Some more
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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2011, 08:53:02 PM »
And it continues
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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2011, 08:54:35 PM »
Enough - your patience cannot stretch any further. Paddy
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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2011, 09:01:51 PM »
Have you just been away on a holiday Paddy? Looks as if the weather were a bit damp. But maybe it's too early in the northern year for these to be in flower?

0435 is Silene acaulis again and 0959 is Campanula barbata.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2011, 09:04:43 PM by Lesley Cox »
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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2011, 09:30:57 PM »
Re Paddi  ;D

This time I think I will really need help too for some of the plants below!
So
0079 veronica alpina
0090 homogyne alpina ( to check out also, homogyne discolor, but difference can't be made with the flower only?)
0108 joker...Apiaceae, perhaps a ligusticum mutellina, but not sure
0122 makes me really think of leucorchis albida, but other mind is welcomed.
0154 I should know it, such coloured apiaceae are not common. I should, and will also come back later to see if    somebody found it out

0242 would say salix helvetica, to confirm
0323 probably valeriana tripteris
0369 aster bellidiastrum
0377 doronicum clusii or grandiflorum or?
0429 saxifraga paniculata, nanified by its stony habitat
0435 again the silene acaulis, but with those long flower and leave stems in open habitat. Strange...

0554 primula elatior or the hybrid x polyantha
0632 pulsatilla alpina ssp apiifolia
0814 silene dioica
0840 campanula joker ( could be rotundifolia for example, or something else...)
0895 a hieracium for sure, vilosum, pilosum, difficult to key with this only pic
0944 trifolium badium or maybe spadiceum

0959-0954 campanula barbata
0946 solidago virgaurea
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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2011, 09:49:10 PM »
Philippe, you are being extraordinarily generous with your time and expertise and it is greatly appreciated.

Re 0369 - is Leucanthemum halleri a possibility? Post Scriptum - no, your identification is correct.

Paddy

Sorry, Lesley, I have nearly forgotten my manners. These shots are from two years ago but I have been asked to give a talk to our garden club and wanted to be sure I have the names correct. It's a kind of report on a holiday with flowers, so not of the standard normally associated with the SRGC but then I have never reached that standard myself anyway. School run calls, rushing,  Paddy

Post Scriptum: Lesley, as you can see from the photographs the rain was heavy, the day was overcast and that was such a pity as the range of flowers was simply mind-blowing, certainly for me at any rate. However, the conditions meant that there was no possibility of taking out an identification book and keying out the plants seen. As a result I had to rely on photographs and, while I have made a general stab at most of them, I did not feel confident at the same time. Thank goodness for Philippe! A life-saver. With his identifications I have been able to go back to my photographs, plant book to hand and look again at the photographs.
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« Last Edit: January 27, 2011, 12:46:45 PM by Paddy Tobin »
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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2011, 05:01:01 PM »
Hi

I thought about the 0377 I said to be a possibly doronicum grandiflorum or clusii. After reflexion, I don't think they would grow in such an environment. They are both more plants for the scree ( acidic and limestone), and should not do well with so much concurrence around. Perhaps doronicum columnae.
Flora helvetica could give the answer without problem for most if not nearly all of your pics. Unfortunetaly, I don't have it here.
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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2011, 05:12:33 PM »
Again, Many thanks, Philippe.

I had thought it was Doronicum grandiflorum. Paddy
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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2011, 11:14:43 PM »
840 might well be Campanula scheuzeri a large flowered, low growing member of the rotundifolia clan.

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Re: Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2011, 01:04:31 AM »
Many thanks, Tony.

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