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Swiss Alps - confirmation on plant names, please
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Paddy Tobin
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A few more to tease your brains and test your patience. Paddy
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January 31, 2011, 04:11:37 PM »
357 Pedicularis tuberosa
497 Pedicularis verticillata
726 Astragulus glycophyllos perhaps
keep em coming!
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Tony Goode. Norwich UK. Mintemp -8C
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January 31, 2011, 04:37:40 PM »
726....I was thinking maybe Astragalus frigidus
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Alan & Sherba Grainger
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January 31, 2011, 06:16:16 PM »
Many thanks, Paddy
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January 31, 2011, 06:29:57 PM »
good evening
486 valeriana tripteris
536 you have the round leaves left which may belong to a rumex or oxyria digyna and the white little flowers to hutchinsia alpina ( pritzelago should be its new name I believe)
So the pedicularis have already found a name, wouldn't have known really for them
But the 526 is a mystery for me. Some flowers look like those of centaurea, but not the foliage in my opinion. A cirsium, but the flowers this time don't look like really those of cirsium...
I don't know enough the astragalus and the pea family in general.
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January 31, 2011, 06:38:43 PM »
A close-up on the flowers of 526. It has baffled me all day, going from one book to another and one website to another.
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January 31, 2011, 07:39:12 PM »
Almost definitely a Centaurea. Cliff will probably know which one.
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January 31, 2011, 08:02:11 PM »
Well, but those bright shiny fresh green leaves! Maybe they don't belong to those centaurea flowers?
Somehow they remind me of some Solidago virgaurea alpestris' ones, although we can guess here and there a tendency to get slightly lobed ?!
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January 31, 2011, 11:20:13 PM »
Is there a good online Flora for the Swiss Alps?
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February 01, 2011, 02:30:22 PM »
I've never come across one Paddy, but
this online extract
(scroll down past the ads)
from "Sub-Alpine Plants Or Flowers Of The Swiss Woods And Meadows" by H. Stuart Thompson might give you a starting point.
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February 01, 2011, 05:58:20 PM »
Many thanks, Ashley, I have come across some online photo-albums of alpine plants but with these it is hard to know how much one can rely on their accuracy. However, they give a start and a starting point for further enquiry.
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Take a look at:
http://www.wsl.ch/land/products/webflora/welcome-en.ehtml
Follow the mapping links and you can locate lists of recorded plants for localised areas by clicking on the map. I use these lists as a starting point when visiting an area. Once you have the genus name you can google for likely matches and often find useful images. A copy of Flora Helvetica makes it easier still ... once you have a genus name
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Tony Goode. Norwich UK. Mintemp -8C
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February 02, 2011, 03:28:30 PM »
Many thanks, Tony, I am still chasing identifications but it is a good pastime on a rainy day.
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February 02, 2011, 03:41:22 PM »
Alan & Sherba,
I think 529 is Centaurea montana, normally more a blue/purple colour but I think this was simply caught in the sunlight and the colour seems a little more pink.
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February 06, 2011, 04:46:11 PM »
Still ploughing through several thousand photographs and still struggling with identification so your further help would be greatly appreciated. Paddy
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