Crocus February 2011

[Janis Ruksans]

C corsicus and C minimus?  Are they really distinct species?

Tony, not difficult to separate. At first size of flowers, but it is relative. All doubts disappear when compare corm tunics - in corsicus netted at apex, in minimus parallely fibrous throughout.
Janis

[Gerry Webster]

C corsicus and C minimus?  Are they really distinct species?

Tony, not difficult to separate. At first size of flowers, but it is relative. All doubts disappear when compare corm tunics - in corsicus netted at apex, in minimus parallely fibrous throughout.
Janis

It seems that at least one author has not been  convinced that they are completely distinct.
According to the RBG Kew Checklist,
Crocus minimus subvar. corsicus (Vanucchi) Nyman, Consp. Fl. Eur.: 707 (1882)
is a synonym for C. corsicus (Vanucchi).

[David Nicholson]

A couple from the greenhouse today before the heavens opened-again!

Crocus sieberi 'Ronald Ginns'

A little Crocus vernus from Tony Willis in 2008, thank you Tony.

[Tony Willis]

David

I am pleased to see it in flower

Crocus cvijicii first time this pot has flowered so I am pleased with it.

[Janis Ruksans]

It seems that at least one author has not been  convinced that they are completely distinct.
According to the RBG Kew Checklist,
Crocus minimus subvar. corsicus (Vanucchi) Nyman, Consp. Fl. Eur.: 707 (1882)
is a synonym for C. corsicus (Vanucchi).

See the year, when it was written (1882 !) and think about knowledge of Crocuses at that time.
Janis

[Gerry Webster]

It seems that at least one author has not been  convinced that they are completely distinct.
According to the RBG Kew Checklist,
Crocus minimus subvar. corsicus (Vanucchi) Nyman, Consp. Fl. Eur.: 707 (1882)
is a synonym for C. corsicus (Vanucchi).

See the year, when it was written (1882 !) and think about knowledge of Crocuses at that time.
Janis

My post was not intended to defend the view that there is no distinction but merely to draw attention to the fact that even after Maw made the distinction (in 1878) it appears that not everyone was convinced. It is true that subsequent cytological & phylogenetic studies seem to support Maw.

[Armin]

Armin, yes in size it is very close to my C. biflorus alexandrii but it has white stigmas and quite different corner of Turkey from then my C. biflorus alexandrii. At the moment I believe it is thirt biflorus with white throat (after alexandrii and weldenii)

Ibrahim,
that would be a sensational matter. Keep my fingers crossed. Anyway the croci is a great find.

and this is not that the Janis mentions in his new crocus book?
No. I didn't know about this one when I wrote my book. My first idea that it could be albino form of some subspecies, but too little is known from pictures. Must to see in vivo.
Janis

Janis, thank you. It is a great pleasure to study your book.

[Armin]

Ashley, Fred, David and Tony,
phantastic croci images from both greenhouse and wild.

[Michael J Campbell]

Just one today.

Crocus reticulatus x angustifolius early gold

[art600]

Michael

Are your pots in a cold frame? or like Dirk's iris pots exposed to the elements.

[Michael J Campbell]

I bring them into a cold greenhouse at flowering time. Arthritis makes it difficult to bend down and takes pics when they are in the frame. Past my sell  by date.

[BULBISSIME]

Yes Janis, all from wild.
This ones where at sea level and the C. corcicus places that I know are still too cold to flower, but in fact, it's really almsot impossible to distinct them with flowers: they are really similar, with some tall C. minimus, short C. corsicus, and even style color can be different between clones.....
I'll try to post corms pics later.

[Melvyn Jope]

Crocus sieberi from near Kastania Northern Greece brought out by todays sun.

[tonyg]

Crocus sieberi from near Kastania Northern Greece brought out by todays sun.

That is a very nice form - with such a pale throat and 'bicolor' petals.  Does Crocus veluchensis grow nearby?  It reminds me of the wild hybrid.

[Martin Baxendale]

Crocus sieberi from near Kastania Northern Greece brought out by todays sun.

Quite lovely, Melvyn.