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Hendrik Van Bogaert

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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #225 on: April 18, 2011, 07:33:15 AM »
I just bought this Onco sp from Roger Barlow of Beaver Creek Greenhouses in
British Columbia.

My upright hand could hide the whole thing.  I am only familiar with oncos in
photos, and it is difficult to tell size from them.

Is this plant abnormally small? and any idea what it is?

Hi Diana,
I think it's Iris acutiloba ssp. lineolata (look to the pointed falls).
Hendrik

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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #226 on: April 18, 2011, 08:29:25 AM »
I just bought this Onco sp from Roger Barlow of Beaver Creek Greenhouses in
British Columbia ...  Is this plant abnormally small? and any idea what it is? 

Looks like Iris acutiloba lineolata
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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #227 on: April 18, 2011, 02:40:28 PM »
Flowering here today:

Iris acutiloba

Wim, nice plant.
Is it ssp. acutiloba?, with 2 onco spots?
Your plant is very late!
Hendrik

Thanks Hendrik,

Only one spot. The spot visible on the picture...so probably subsp. lineolata??

Planted it last year before summer...so a first time flowerer.
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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #228 on: April 18, 2011, 05:21:26 PM »
Iris cedretii is also flowering outside, different clones to get seeds I hope....
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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #229 on: April 18, 2011, 07:53:44 PM »
I try not to look at this thread. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;D
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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #230 on: April 18, 2011, 08:11:09 PM »
Iris cedretii is also flowering outside, different clones to get seeds I hope....
Indeed, very beautiful!
How you see the difference with kirkwoodii?
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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #231 on: April 18, 2011, 08:43:18 PM »
Two years ago I was in Amman, Jordan.
In a particular street there were many garden centres; in one of this garden centres I found a lot of
pots with oncocyclus irises; unfortunately not in flower en probably wild collected.
I bought 3 pots (price: 1 EURO/pot, very cheap, but in Jordan obviously a good price).
I brought them to Belgium and two years later the plants flowered;
they looked all like Iris jordana, the national flower.
One of the plants is particulary special; I have never seen such a dark flower;  it’s as dark as the night.
It’s very hard to make a true colour picture, but I hope you enjoy this beauty.
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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #232 on: April 18, 2011, 09:10:01 PM »
For sure it's iris jordana Hendrick, and a nice one.
This species is very dark, but still violet with backlight.
I've also founded some for sale in a garden center, in plastic bags....
Regarding differences between I. cedretii and I. kirkwodii, like most Onco species, first difference is.. geographic!
They don"t grow in the same area.
Iris cedretii is a highland plant, smaller and darker than I. Kirkwoodii.
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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #233 on: April 18, 2011, 09:16:01 PM »
For sure it's iris jordana Hendrick, and a nice one.
This species is very dark, but still violet with backlight.
I've also founded some for sale in a garden center, in plastic bags....
Regarding differences between I. cedretii and I. kirkwodii, like most Onco species, first difference is.. geographic!
They don"t grow in the same area.
Iris cedretii is a highland plant, smaller and darker than I. Kirkwoodii.

Frédéric, picture is taken by my son during my absence last week;
he told me that the flower was far more darker...
Thank you for explication cedretii - kirkwoodii.

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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #234 on: April 18, 2011, 09:34:55 PM »
Woooow, Fred and Henrik thanks for showing those wonderful and perfect grown plant! Just great!!!


Hans,
Ten years ago a Dutch friend gave me an oncocyclus iris called Iris nectarifera; he had collected this plant in Turkey, but I don't know where and I lost all contact with him.
I'm so free to post a picture of this plant, who start flowered today.
I don't know what it is, but he resembles very strong your plant ... and probably I show an other form of nectarifera???
I have never seen stolons, but I was not so interested in this plant and have neglected him many years.
Hendrik


Thanks Henrik, yes I agree, it should be the same species! Here a pic of the group of Iris nectarifera, it is formed by three plants. The flowering fans  are the first fans of the first two plants (the third was given to me from a very generous forumist one year later). The other Fans appeared so far about 10 to 25 cm from the initially planted fans and are much larger. Maybe an indication it does not like to be transplanted.
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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #235 on: April 18, 2011, 09:54:01 PM »
When I received some seed a few years ago as I. cedretii from one of the exchanges, it turned out to be a Sibirica form. >:(
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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #236 on: April 19, 2011, 06:31:16 AM »
Lesley, If I got seeds this year, I'll send you some which will be the true species.
Just remind me end of june.
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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #237 on: April 19, 2011, 10:20:01 AM »
Wow what beautiful oncos flowering for you all.
Fred a list of those oncos that look very similar but are from different regions would be good.
eg. cedrettii (high) kirkwoodii (low)
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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #238 on: April 19, 2011, 09:07:11 PM »
It don't stop ...
Today Iris meda is flowering.
Really 'Honey Gold', as Paul Furse described.
Unfortunately two other clones are not flowering, but a hybrid (?) between meda and barnumae, the so-called "moleskin irises" shows a flower!

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Re: Oncos 2011
« Reply #239 on: April 19, 2011, 11:46:28 PM »
I'm looking forward to seeing the "moleskin" irises.
I have seen them mentioned on occasions.
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