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Alan_b
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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February 11, 2011, 10:41:16 PM »
Quote from: jnovis on February 11, 2011, 10:21:51 PM
Hi all, can you confirm this is Gracilis.?
Viewed at that angle and without a shot of the foliage, nobody will be able to confirm that is gracilis. I'm not a botanist but isn't it a general rule that plants show much more variability in their foliage than in their flowers? Therefore one should be paying more attention to what the leaves look like than the appearance of the flower.
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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February 12, 2011, 05:38:02 AM »
Welcome Mark
I am looking forward to seeing pictures of some of the snowdrops your father proudly grew for three decades. As Martin says we probably won't be able to give definitive answers to the names but we can certainly try for an educated guess on a few. Also, if your dad was anything like me he will have been growing a few too that haven't got names - chance seedlings that he had found in his own or other peoples gardens and expressed an interest in.
Which area of the country are your family based in (I am guessing the country is UK as I don't think there were that many people interested in the different named snowdrops in other countries back in 1980).
Kind regards.
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Hagen Engelmann
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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February 12, 2011, 07:02:46 AM »
Hello Jim, your flower has some characteristics of an usual G. gracilis.
There is a big basal mark (long) and only a thin apical mark (often dots only).
The lower edge of the i.t. goes lightly to the outside.
The flower is a little bit globular.
All these show the way to Galanthus gracilis.
Now we need the pics of leaves and the whole group.
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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February 12, 2011, 08:55:27 PM »
I was out inspecting the snowdrops this afternoon and noticed that one clump of Wendy's Gold ( x 20 bulbs ) have been completely eradicated by a mouse. I have subsequently caught it - humanely of course then hung, drawn and quartered the blighter. Expensive appetite since a similar size of 'Lutescens' lies nearby.
I did take several pics most too out of focused to post here so need a training session on how to take decent pics with an Olympus..
But one I'll call 'Quasimodo' for starters - a rather strange beast/permutation...
And will such a permutation exist in its offspring?
Also a small ( 3 inches ) one that has distinctive outer green markings.
I hope the pics are reasonably focussed.
Regards
Mark
P.S. I should add can anyone identify these for me please...
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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February 12, 2011, 10:10:27 PM »
Hi KentGardener,
My father lived in Blackburn, Lancs - so you are right.
He had some dealings with John Morley with some specials but I do not know of the outcome.
As my nickname, as googled, means there are plenty of opportunities of 'sports'. Also there were some fine snowdrops produced at that time that maybe difficult to obtain nowadays. I will endeavour to scan his 'known' collection in so that it might give an opportunity for some to obtain say an N1 Mighty Atom...
Regards
Mark
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Alan_b
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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February 14, 2011, 07:28:01 AM »
"Quasimodo" is displaying the characteristics of a snowdrop that used to be called 'Atkinsii' but is now correctly called 'James Backhouse'. That's not to say that it
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'James Backhouse', as other snowdrops can behave similarly.
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zorija
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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February 15, 2011, 07:52:23 PM »
Alan,
Thanks for your response, I'll mark it and see what happens next year.
Regards
Mark
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mark smyth
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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February 15, 2011, 08:18:46 PM »
Galanthus by Primrose Warburg is Trym or one of the lookalikes. There is also a seedling to the left
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February 15, 2011, 08:22:25 PM »
I got excited when I saw the green tipped flower thinking it was a snowdrop. It's a Leucojum
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zorija
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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February 15, 2011, 09:47:07 PM »
Behind the Leucojum is Gal 'Primrose Warburg' - I'll take some pics if you are interested...
Regards
Mark
P.S. Page 274 in the Monograph of Cultivated Galanthus
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mark smyth
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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February 18, 2011, 11:57:26 PM »
Has anyone been to East Lambrook Manor this year?
I took photos at the display and forgot to photograph the labels
Answers on a postcard to 43 Birch .....
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February 27, 2011, 08:13:23 PM »
Many years ago I got some Galanthus from a Czech friend, she told me that they were
collected in Caucasus, Nr. 1 is rather shy flowering.
Would be grateful if a kind swowdrop expert could identify them.
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Rudi Weiss,Waiblingen,southern Germany,
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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March 14, 2011, 06:34:06 PM »
Maybe G.lagodechianus? -I am not an expert...
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Hagen Engelmann
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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March 14, 2011, 06:37:27 PM »
Not easy without a pic
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Hagen Engelmann Brandenburg/Germany (80m)
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Re: Galanthus Identification
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March 14, 2011, 07:01:48 PM »
Hi Hagen,
there are five pics!
I meant the caucasus snowdrop of ruweiss! What do you think about it?
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