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Allium 2011
« on: February 08, 2011, 10:00:32 PM »
Hello Mark

I got a question from the PBS
maybe you know the answer


Roland

Hey guys
A buddy of mine shared some Allium seeds with me, and we found it on the internet, showing one single reference, and my seeds came from that single plant we found. The label is Allium toojayashii.
I'd love more information about this species, and if I have it spelled wrong, correct me please.
Best, Jude
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2011, 10:24:04 PM »
Quote from: bulborum on February 08, 2011, 10:00:32 PM
A buddy of mine shared some Allium seeds with me, and we found it on the internet, showing one single reference, and my seeds came from that single plant we found. The label is Allium toojayashii.
I'd love more information about this species, and if I have it spelled wrong, correct me please.
Best, Jude

This is probably a name scramble of Allium togashii (published in Flora of Japan as A. togasii).  Then it would remain to be seen whether the plant is true to name.
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2011, 10:36:00 PM »
Thanks Mark

I emailed your answer to jude

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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2011, 10:37:20 PM »
Quote from: bulborum on February 08, 2011, 10:36:00 PM
Thanks Mark

I emailed your answer to jude

Roland

You're welcome Roland.  Saw the same query posted by Jude on PBS, and answered there too. :D
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2011, 02:00:12 AM »
Quote from: TheOnionMan on February 08, 2011, 10:24:04 PM
This is probably a name scramble of Allium togashii (published in Flora of Japan as A. togasii).  Then it would remain to be seen whether the plant is true to name.
Hi Mark,
We have this one flowering now!
Sorry, it's a bit floppy from being in the shade house


cheers
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2011, 08:31:38 AM »
Flowering already the whole winter
and difficult to find in the nature the first time
you overlook him easy in-between the grass
not spectacular but well worth growing
thanks to the cold it flowers here 4 months
Allium chamaemoly collections from Corsica and Sicily
First picture is from Sicily LN
last picture from the plants I found growing next to it on Corsica
Acis roseum (leaves) and Scilla autumnalis (seedpot and leaves)

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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2011, 07:42:00 PM »
Hi all Allium friends!
How about to identify some unidentified Allium species?
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/pictures/item/41316.html
For example this one from Greece:

Allium sp. at the Plantarium database
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2011, 08:47:37 PM »
Quote from: Yuri Pirogov on February 11, 2011, 07:42:00 PM
Hi all Allium friends!
How about to identify some unidentified Allium species?
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/pictures/item/41316.html <---this link requires an account, username, and password
For example this one from Greece:

Hello Yuri, always good to find another Allium fan.  I am very familiar with the plantarium.ru site; many pages of excellent photos of Alliums and other plants.  Here is an alternate link to that site that does not require an account (also google translate should be built in).
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/view/item/41315.html

On your photo link, click link at bottom to show 8 photos
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/19263.html

One of those links at the bottom goes to discussion on the identity of this allium:
http://forum.plantarium.ru/viewtopic.php?id=5895
Although I do not believe it is either A. commutatum or obtusifolium as suggested in the blog.  Not sure what it is, I'll have to do some research to see if I can apply an identification.  It certainly is a lovely allium, I really like the bright pink pedicels.

For Greek mountain flora, you can look here, although I wish they had a search function:
http://www.greekmountainflora.info/

If you need any winter reading on Allium, check out the previous topics on SRGC:
Allium 2010:   http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5766.0
Allium 2009:   http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3028.0
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2011, 08:50:54 PM »
Hello Yuri

Nice site but you have to login
and for the inscription you have to type in cyrilice

You win Mark
you where faster ;D

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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2011, 08:54:55 PM »
Quote from: fermides on February 10, 2011, 02:00:12 AM
Hi Mark,
We have this one flowering now!
Sorry, it's a bit floppy from being in the shade house
cheers
fermi

Thanks Fermi for showing pics, it is a modest little onion, one that I grew in 2 forms, one dwarfer than the other and flowering earlier (mid summer) compared to the taller one that bloomed later (late summer).  I used to have large beds of it, but lost much of it due to aggressive weeds, but still have plants that blooms each year... must make a point of building up stock again.  It does do best in full sun, so it might become lax as you suggest, in a shade house.
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2011, 10:09:46 PM »
Sorry, being registered at Plantarium I give you a link that need registration.
Here is another way to see only unidentified photos:
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/view/images/own/item/41316.html
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2011, 01:07:22 PM »
can somebody give me some information about germination requirements of allium acuminatum and allium akaka .Is cold treatment required and for how long?
I received the seeds very late.No more frosts here.
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2011, 08:45:32 PM »
I can't help you with that seed info, John, I'm afraid, but I was cheered to see the Allium season starting here in Aberdeen with the first appearance of shoots above ground.  

Most of these are of new bulbs I got last October (from the sale of the Connoisseur Collection Bulbs that Luit van Delft brought to the SRGC Discussion Weekend) and I have a sneaking suspicion that we planted them without any labels  :-\ ::) :-X  They are cultivars rather than species for the most part so we may get away with it!  :-X
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2011, 11:31:28 AM »
Here are Allium rothii and Allium libanii, from middle east, pure geophyts that would need a bit more sun here...
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2011, 12:37:15 PM »
Quote from: BULBISSIME on April 07, 2011, 11:31:28 AM
Here are Allium rothii and Allium libanii, from middle east, pure geophyts that would need a bit more sun here...

Libanii is well growing with me in greenhouse here and set good seeds. A. rothii I never had. Not a "fresh" picture attached. Now I grow it in pots.
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