Allium 2011

[TheOnionMan]

Hoorah!  I thought Allium prattii too   Things are looking up, I identified an onion!

Congratulations Maggi, you're on the fast track to becoming a multi-layered purveyor of ornamental onions!  You can now change your avatar signature from "There's often a clue" to "There's often an onion"

[Maggi Young]

Thanks Mark, you give me great encouragement. I think a couple of IDs of one onion doesn't quite make a fully rounded stew, though, so I'll wait before claiming any skills!

[Rafa]

what an allium fields!

This is Allium paczoskianum, from my friend S. Banquetow

[wmel]

At last allium tuncelianum is starting to flower today ,
also allium texanum is flowering now and the seeds of allium hissaricum are more than beautiful (I think....)

[Janis Ruksans]

At last allium tuncelianum is starting to flower today ,
also allium texanum is flowering now and the seeds of allium hissaricum are more than beautiful (I think....)

My tuncelianum is pure white.
Janis

[wmel]

At last allium tuncelianum is starting to flower today ,
also allium texanum is flowering now and the seeds of allium hissaricum are more than beautiful (I think....)

My tuncelianum is pure white.
Janis

Janis; I bought a. tuncelianum from you in 2006!!. It is just starting to flower and in about a week it's getting more white. I post a photo from last year

[wmel]

Stephen
Malvik, Norway
Eating my way through the world's 15,000+ edible species
Age: Lower end of the 20-25,000 day range

« Reply #213 on: June 29, 2011, 09:13:49 AM »
...and this came up from Allium platycaule seed. Any suggestions?

Was this allium a bulb, or a plant like a.cernuum and a.schoenoprasum??
as I posted before it looked like a. palasii, But when it is a plant, I think it is allium amphibolum!

[TheOnionMan]

what an allium fields!

This is Allium paczoskianum, from my friend S. Banquetow

Very nice A. paczoskianum Rafa, one I've seen lots of photos of but one rarely seen in cultivation, it has a "flavum-esque" look to it, a subtle explosion of buff colored flowers.  Do you know the original source of this plant from your friend?

[TheOnionMan]

At last allium tuncelianum is starting to flower today ,
...the seeds of allium hissaricum are more than beautiful (I think....)

Glad to see A. tuncelianum in flower, a fascinating species all around, I LIKE IT!  I agree Weitse with the appearance of Allium hissaricum in seed; plump and attractive, like bunches of little Granny Smith apples (a green apple variety).

[TheOnionMan]

Some photos from today and yesterday;
Allium pskemense in holland is already flowering
is allium szovitsii correct?? (Grown from seed USA)
allium cupanii now flowering for a week or two (darker colour than in the begin of flowering)
a. saxatille we have in 3 colours, one is not flowering yet
2 different forms of a. cernuum
a. sativum var ophioscorodum not flowering but with nice curly stem.
a. azureum and a. macranthum

Weitse, nice to see the mass of a low white-flowered A. cernuum.  Years ago I grew A. szovitsii from a reliable source, it was a very weak slow grower, and when it modestly bloomed it keyed correctly.  I no longer have it; so it's hard to comment on whether your's is true or not, you'll have to compare with the original botanical description.

Regarding Allium ledebourianum, I said it before and I'll say it again, I have never met a plant that I could rely on being the true plant.  If indeed A. ledebouriaum is out there, and with it being so close to A. schoenoprasum, that much of what is out there in horticulture may be hybrids.  The two species are separated on the length of the filaments and the pedicels.  The drawing from Flora of China demonstrates the filament length difference (see below) and an extract from the botanical key describing what separates the two species.

Flora of China; drawing comparing Allium schoenoprasum and A. ledebourianum.
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=60290&flora_id=2

Allium schoenoprasum:
Pedicels unequal, shorter than to nearly as long as perianth; filaments 1/3--1/2(--2/3) as long as perianth segments

Allium ledebourianum:
Pedicels subequal, 1.5--3 × as long as perianth; filaments longer than perianth segments.

Dried plant:
http://www.agroatlas.ru/en/content/related/Allium_altyncolicum/

Paper by Nicolai Friesen, Peter Hanelt, and others, on Allium altyncolicum and its relationship to A. schoenoprasum and ledebouriaum.
In this taxonomic paper, look at the flowers of A. ledebourianum (images f-g), which are upright hemispherical heads that look different than the "shuttlecock" shaped heads of A. schoenoprasum (that look occurs because of the unequal length pedicels).
http://www.biologie.uni-osnabrueck.de/bogos/wir_ueber_uns/friesen/publications/altyncolicum.pdf

Shown are two photos of Allium altyncolicum taken in mid June 2011.  Also shown, is Allium amplectans, nearly becoming a weed, but a lovely ephemeral one... the foliage and stems so skinny as to pose no threat to overpowering other plants, and cheerful heads of palest pink flowers.  Shortly after flowering the whole affair dries up quickly and disappears.

[bulborum]

Mark

I turned your Allium amplectans lt pink

Roland

[TheOnionMan]

Mark

I turned your Allium amplectans lt pink

Roland

Actually, the way it was growing, with the stems sideways under the weight of the flowers and after lots of rain, was correct. Same thing with the photo above it, where I photographed the reclining stems.

[TheOnionMan]

Some Alliums blooming on this hot hot day.

photos 1-3  Allium sphaerocephalon var. bulbilliferum, a slender miniature form with tiny knobs of bright cranberry red, and only a few bulbils, more so in some individuals. 12-16" (30-40 cm) tall.  Grown from 1993 AGS seedex as Allium sp. Haute Provins, France (received bulbils).  Very well behaved, and growing 18 years in my garden in the same spot, has not made any aggressive spreading advances whatsoever, one of my "favs".

photo 4     Allium sphaerocephalon var. bulbilliferum, tiny in comparison to a large head of Allium cernuum.

photos 5-6  Allium kochii (syn: Allium vineale) - from Isle of Usedom, Baltic Coast, Germany, sandy areas, from Arnfried Abraham 1991. The name "kochii" is not accepted, lumped among many names into A. vineale, but I retain the name here as this is a slender tiny-flowered little thing, and in 20 years, has not spread the slightest.

photo 7   Allium sp. Caucasus - Magnar's fine little Allium again; I like how it becomes red and white as the umbels age.

photo 8-9   Allium ramosum -  I'm fond of this tall, long-flowering summer species, much better than A. tuberosum in my opinion, and not as thuggish as tuberosum.

photo 10   Late flowers on a tall robust form of A. hymenorrhizum.  I've had this one for almost 30 years!

[wmel]

Some photos made today, summer alliums now are fully starting to flower in Holland


ampeloprasum 2011 7-8.JPG
ampeloprasum Purple Mystery 2 2011-7-8.JPG
ampeloprasum var babingtonianum 1 2011-7-8.JPG
ampeloprasum var babingtonianum 3 2011-7-8.JPG
fistulosum seeds 2011-7-8.JPG
oleraceum 2 2011-7-8.JPG
paniculatum minor 1 2011-7-8.JPG
spaerocephalon 2011-7-8.JPG
tuncelianum 1 2011-7-8.JPG
tuncelianum 2 2011-7-8.JPG

(edited by maggi to add file names so the search engine can find the photos  )

[wmel]

edited by maggi to add file names so the search engine can find the photos

I didn't know that, next time I will do it myself, thanks Maggi!