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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #390 on: September 12, 2011, 09:27:33 PM »
today I received some seeds from allium siphonanthum???
original comming from china.
I looked on the internet, but only found a drawing/illustration.
Does anyone have a photo so I can see what I can expect?
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #391 on: September 16, 2011, 01:40:45 AM »
today I received some seeds from allium siphonanthum???
original comming from china.
I looked on the internet, but only found a drawing/illustration.
Does anyone have a photo so I can see what I can expect?

Weitse, there are no photos of this species that I can find, there are lots and lots of species of Allium for which there are no photos found on the internet  :'(

So, what you'll have to do, is successfully grow it, bring it to flowering, verify its identify by comparing with the FOC key, then post photos for all to learn from :D
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #392 on: September 16, 2011, 01:59:09 AM »
I've missed much of the season this year, and now with days growing short and waning daylight, I don't get to see the garden until the weekend.

Just noticed last week (09-05-2011) that Allium callimischon ssp. callimischon was blooming, nearly swamped by Oenothera fremontii.  This particular Oenothera is taprooted and not stoloniferous, although the radial stems go 2' in each direction so make a robust circular plant 4' (1.3 m) across!  I do like it however, for the extra large yellow flower that continue until frost, each flower fading to orange by morning.  I plan on moving the Allium to some spot with less competition and where I can better enjoy at close hand its small dimensions.  

Sorry about the poor quality photo, it was nearly dark, and the digital camera I've been using (shared with my daughter) has now traveled with my daughter for her freshman year in college, so I'm using my telephone's built-in camera... 8 megapixel but with very limited presets and configurations, takes good photos indoors but terrible one in the landscape.

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Seedlings of Allium fedtschenkoanum from Kazakhstan... I will be a happy man if they survive and mature to show gorgeous golden-yellow flowers as seen in the following links:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5766.msg173205#msg173205
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7511.msg206332#msg206332

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I've grown a number of Mexican species over the years collected by the late Thad Howard, a few species no longer with me.  Several have proved very hardy.  The following one was simply listed as Allium sp. collected Oaxaca, Mexico in moist soil... I believe it is Allium subteretifolium.  It only flowered once of twice about 10 years ago, can't remember what time of year it flowered, had few-flowered umbels of white dark-veined flowers.  For these past years it grows and increases happily outdoors in the ground, but NEVER blooms.

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Another poor quality photo taken in low light, late flowering forms of Allium stellatum at their peak now.

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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #393 on: September 21, 2011, 01:58:10 PM »
A couple of shots of a Red Admiral butterfly on Allium ericetorum last weekend:
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #394 on: September 21, 2011, 06:05:16 PM »
Starting my first year this year with Alliums,

 Purple Sensation, nigrum, Purple Drumsticks. They will hopefully appear next season.


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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #395 on: September 22, 2011, 10:01:57 PM »
Here are a couple of pictures of Alliums that flowered earlier this year in the garden.

The first one is a picture is of a nice form of Allium ovalifolium var. leuconeurum.
The second came to the garden as seeds of Allium nanodes which its not. I think that it could be a form of Allium ovalifolium.
The last a nice group of sikkimensis.

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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #396 on: September 23, 2011, 02:12:32 AM »
Here are a couple of pictures of Alliums that flowered earlier this year in the garden.

The first one is a picture is of a nice form of Allium ovalifolium var. leuconeurum.
The second came to the garden as seeds of Allium nanodes which its not. I think that it could be a form of Allium ovalifolium.
The last a nice group of sikkimensis.

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Johan, each specimen you show is superb!  That clump pf Allium sikkimensis is more than superb.  I agree with you, the second photo IS NOT Allium nanodes, it is indeed a nice form of Allium ovalifolium

John W., your ACE Allium labeled as A. nanodes is probably A. ovalifolium, based on it being an ACE Allium like Johan's.

Here are links to a photo of A. nanodes taken in China by Oron Peri.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5673.0;attach=230703;image
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5673.msg157775#msg157775

A. nanodes is almost stemless, here's a photo from Flora of China:
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=52118&flora_id=2
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #397 on: September 23, 2011, 02:15:16 AM »
Stephen, nice shots of your onion feeders!  Your A. ericetorum is *very* late to flower, is it normally that late for you? I already collected seed on mine.

Katijah2 - once you try alliums you'll be hooked on them, they're such fun and interesting plants.
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #398 on: September 23, 2011, 12:28:31 PM »
Mark,
Here 2 more pictures of Allium got as "textile" pictured few days ago.
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #399 on: September 23, 2011, 01:44:27 PM »
Mark,
Here 2 more pictures of Allium got as "textile" pictured few days ago.
Janis

Janis, now seeing the foliage, the curling blue-gray leaves, pretty much confirms that this is Allium senescens var. glaucum... a pretty allium and certainly welcome for flowering this time of year, but obviously nothing to do with Allium textile.  Thanks for following up with the foliage views. :)
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #400 on: September 23, 2011, 03:16:41 PM »
Mark,
Here 2 more pictures of Allium got as "textile" pictured few days ago.
Janis

Janis, now seeing the foliage, the curling blue-gray leaves, pretty much confirms that this is Allium senescens var. glaucum... a pretty allium and certainly welcome for flowering this time of year, but obviously nothing to do with Allium textile.  Thanks for following up with the foliage views. :)
Many thanks, Mark!
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #401 on: September 23, 2011, 04:40:22 PM »
Stephen, nice shots of your onion feeders!  Your A. ericetorum is *very* late to flower, is it normally that late for you? I already collected seed on mine.

Yes, it is definitely a September flowerer, the buds appearing mid-late August and in full flower for an extended period most of September (I can't recall seed maturing on it). My other ericetorum tentatively identified by you here flowers a month earlier:

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5766.msg163892#msg163892
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #402 on: September 23, 2011, 07:41:48 PM »
Mark,
Here 2 more pictures of Allium got as "textile" pictured few days ago.
Janis

Janis, now seeing the foliage, the curling blue-gray leaves, pretty much confirms that this is Allium senescens var. glaucum... a pretty allium and certainly welcome for flowering this time of year, but obviously nothing to do with Allium textile.  Thanks for following up with the foliage views. :)
Many thanks, Mark!
Janis

My example, for refernce is in Post 389
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #403 on: September 27, 2011, 07:41:11 PM »
One of my clumps of Allium cernuum has started flowering again
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Re: Allium 2011
« Reply #404 on: September 28, 2011, 12:10:11 PM »
Although not much was in flower, here's the Allium collection (in a cold frame) at the Copenhagen Botanics in May....
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