Allium 2011

[wmel]

some photos of allium flowering today and a gardenview.
Also allium ledebourianum which is easy recognizable because it has very dark green almost blue leaves and a little bigger pink flower than schoenoprasum.

[wmel]

There is a chance that it could be A. ledebourianum, but the true species is relatively rare in cultivation, and as well, it is practically indistinguishable from A. schoenoprasum.  The last possibility is A. altyncolicum, a relatively recently defined species, which is among my favorite species, with bluer foliage that tends to be more upright and stiff, and really large heads of showy bloom, typically blooming well after A. schoenoprasum... but I don't think your plant is that species.

as I was reading your discription of allium altyncolicum, I think it looks like my allium ledebourianum??
I post 2 more pictures of my allium ledebourianum, one made today.

[Maggi Young]

Allium huber-morathii is fantastic!

[wmel]

Allium huber-morathii is fantastic!

Thank you Maggi,
There are so many beautiful alliums that I find it very difficult to find one to be the most beautiful....
But one of them is (next to huber-morathii) allium gypsaceum. again one that is not making ofsets or seeds

[bulborum]

Beauty wietse

did you get it as seed or as a bulb

Roland

[Maggi Young]

Allium huber-morathii is fantastic!

Thank you Maggi,
There are so many beautiful alliums that I find it very difficult to find one to be the most beautiful....
But one of them is (next to huber-morathii) allium gypsaceum. again one that is not making ofsets or seeds

Wow, yes, that is lovely.
Maddening, isn't it, how some of the most beautiful are also the slowest to grow?  But if they were ugly I guess we would never notice that!

[wmel]

Beauty wietse

did you get it as seed or as a bulb

Roland

We bought one bulb about 10 years ago, and it is still one bulb.

[bulborum]

Wietse

maybe good to buy a few more from the same source
and you can make cross pollination
probably the plant is self-sterile

Roland

[daveyp1970]

Allium huber-morathii is fantastic!

Yep that says it all perfectly.

[Lvandelft]

Luit, those are chives, Allium schoenoprasum. 

Mark that is exactly what I thought when I first saw it, but it is rather huge form.
I just remember that I got my plant as Allium grisebachii, which name is to my knowledge nowhere found in the genus

I agree that my plant looks mostly like Wietse's A. ledebourianum. I found a picture at IPK Gatersleben which looks just like my plant.
http://pgrc-35.ipk-gatersleben.de/pls/htmldb_pgrc/f?p=265:3:4455041187169639::NO   (Tax 3170)

[Maggi Young]

A similarly large flower to Luit's  has arisen in a pot of chives here... it is larger in all its parts and the flower is rather more brightly coloured than a normal Allium schoenoprasum. We think it may be a hybrid with some of the larger onions about the pplace... is this likely?

Will try for a photo tomorrow if the rain stops. 

[wmel]

Luit and Maggi:

I have made a lot of crossings between allium schoenoprasum; Forescate, album, albiflorum and the normal schoenoprasum and maximowiczii. Most of the seedlings have bigger plants with bigger flowers and colours from bright white, grey, violet, pink, purple and almost red (like Forescate) and everything between. Luit; I still think yours is a schoenoprasum because the leaves are to "green", but it could be easy a seedling, and I think maggi her schoenoprasum also can be a seedling.
I post 4 photos of allium schoenoprasum, schoenoprasum "Album", schoenoprasum "Forescate", and schoenoprasum albiflorum

[Regelian]

For a 'common chive', this are really magnificent.  Amazing what is locked inside the genome.  have you noticed flavour variances?

[wmel]

For a 'common chive', this are really magnificent.  Amazing what is locked inside the genome.  have you noticed flavour variances?

Sorry, but I didn't eate one of them. But when it is like common onions (cepa) there has to be a lot of difference in taste. In the neighbourhood here the grow a lot of onions; mostly yellow ones, but also with red and white skin and these have much more full flavour

[Regelian]

For a 'common chive', this are really magnificent.  Amazing what is locked inside the genome.  have you noticed flavour variances?

Sorry, but I didn't eate one of them. But when it is like common onions (cepa) there has to be a lot of difference in taste. In the neighbourhood here the grow a lot of onions; mostly yellow ones, but also with red and white skin and these have much more full flavour

Actually, I was thinking more of the leaves in a salad.  It would seem wastefull to eat the bulb of such a beauty.