Allium 2011

[Arda Takan]

Allium sikkimense is a beauty

[daveyp1970]

I've had this Allium for years and am still puzzled as to what it is. It came from a good friend who was gardener of the herb garden at Hardwick Hall near Chesterfield. It was growing in the herb garden and for all I know may still be there. It is very tall and slender and flowers in June. What do the experts think?

 

Stephen my family live a stone throw from Hardwick,i could see if one of them could find out for me.

[Stephenb]

Thanks, that would be great. I asked my friend who no longer works there, but he couldn't remember...

[TheOnionMan]

I've had this Allium for years and am still puzzled as to what it is. It came from a good friend who was gardener of the herb garden at Hardwick Hall near Chesterfield. It was growing in the herb garden and for all I know may still be there. It is very tall and slender and flowers in June. What do the experts think?

I think it is Allium hymenorrhizum.

(your variety looks like it might be var. truncatifolium )

[xthomasx]

A few nice Allium vineale in the wild... with my apartment in the background 

[Stephenb]

I think it is Allium hymenorrhizum.

(your variety looks like it might be var. truncatifolium )

Yes, of course, I think you've done it again! I actually have 2-year old Allium hymenorrhizum from 3 different sources in the garden, but they haven't flowered yet, so I guess I would have eventually solved my own mystery! We'll see how similar they are... Thanks, Mark! Strange to find it in a herb garden though!

[TheOnionMan]

A few nice Allium vineale in the wild... with my apartment in the background 

Hello xthomasx, I believe your Allium to be A. oleraceum, most commonly found in this coppery color form.  It's actually a safe enough one to cultivate, one that I like very much, unlike A. vineale which is considered invasive.  Your apartment area in the background looks like and idyllic setting, lovely to be sure.

[xthomasx]

A few nice Allium vineale in the wild... with my apartment in the background 

Hello xthomasx, I believe your Allium to be A. oleraceum, most commonly found in this coppery color form.  It's actually a safe enough one to cultivate, one that I like very much, unlike A. vineale which is considered invasive.  Your apartment area in the background looks like and idyllic setting, lovely to be sure.

Probably you are right  Thanks for the correction.

[Stephenb]

Mark: It's not often I disagree with you , but I regretted introducing Allium oleraceum in a garden bed as the bulbils got everywhere and it took many years to eradicate. Probably not as bad as vineale, but still invasive.

It is reckoned to be a noxious weed in Arkansas according to http://plants.usda.gov/java/nameSearch

[bulborum]

Probably not as bad as vineale, but still invasive.

I killed all A. vineale in one go with round up 400
not my favourite but this year not a single plant

Roland

[wmel]

Probably not as bad as vineale, but still invasive.

I killed all A. vineale in one go with round up 400
not my favourite but this year not a single plant

Roland

The problem with round up ( glyfosaat ) is you kill all plants standing where you spray, so that is not always an option!

[bulborum]

I took out the interesting plants first
and replanted them without soil

but you are right
it isn't always an option
but I was happy this time
I thought It would cost me years
to get rid of them

Roland

[TheOnionMan]

Mark: It's not often I disagree with you , but I regretted introducing Allium oleraceum in a garden bed as the bulbils got everywhere and it took many years to eradicate. Probably not as bad as vineale, but still invasive.

It is reckoned to be a noxious weed in Arkansas according to http://plants.usda.gov/java/nameSearch

Well, it can come down to specific garden environment and climate, and specific forms of the species, as in the 24 years at my current location, I've never had more than perhaps a dozen plants of A. oleraceum... my particular form a coppery color form from North Africa.  On the other hand, Allium carinatum (the type bulbilliferous species, not the lovely ssp. pulchellum) is a weed that I've been unable to fully eradicate.  Even so, it's not nearly as bad as A. vineale.

[arisaema]

Another Chinese onion, this one from NW Yunnan, about 2500m. Crappy pics, but hopefully someone'll recognize it. Could it be A. mairei?

[wmel]

Another Chinese onion, this one from NW Yunnan, about 2500m. Crappy pics, but hopefully someone'll recognize it. Could it be A. mairei?

It looks like a. mairei to me.