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Rafa

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« Reply #60 on: February 10, 2011, 01:51:22 PM »
About N.x litigiosus, Mariano del Amo y Mora, used this name knowing the controversy it was going to arise.
This species is the natural cross between N. albicans and N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus. It is very similar to N. x matritiensis which is N. cantabricus x N. triandrus subsp. pallidulus.

In my oppinion there is not any valid key about this genus, only different articles published by different authors. I am agree with some articles, and in other cases I don't support at all.



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« Reply #61 on: February 10, 2011, 05:39:37 PM »
Here are some shot of Narcissus in my bulb house.  The scent is wonderful on a warm day.

1.  'Atlas Gold'
2.  N. praecox ex Morocco
3.  'Joy Bishop'
4.  Bought at the Mid-Anglia bulb sale as Yellow Petunioid - apologies for poor focus.  Colour is a darker yellow than in the photo.
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« Reply #62 on: February 10, 2011, 09:10:24 PM »
NIce ones Arthur. 'Atlas Gold' is a very favourite here for its vigour and generosity of flower. With me it starts to flower mid winter so is expecially welcome.
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« Reply #63 on: February 10, 2011, 10:03:24 PM »
A few more seedlings today.

Sorry no 5 is out of focus.

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« Reply #64 on: February 11, 2011, 06:21:47 AM »
Hi everyone, its been a while since I was on here, love seeing all the hoops.
Only a few more months here and they will be starting to bloom for us southern hemispheriens
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« Reply #65 on: February 11, 2011, 09:42:45 AM »
Nice batch of seedlings Michael.
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« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2011, 02:35:15 PM »
Very nice Michael, I must confess I'm getting hoop overload just now, but at last the first trumpets (apart from the Cedric Morris hybrid) are starting to open.
Marcus, I think the detective series of hoops are about here and there. I have Mitimoto.
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« Reply #67 on: February 11, 2011, 03:32:47 PM »

Marcus, I think the detective series of hoops are about here and there. I have Mitimoto.

.... and so do I!
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« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2011, 11:10:38 PM »
A diminutive Narcissus asturiensis came to me as grown from open pollinated seed it is about 4 " or 10 cm high

« Last Edit: February 11, 2011, 11:12:11 PM by ian mcenery »
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« Reply #69 on: February 12, 2011, 09:47:56 AM »
That is very pretty Ian. My own plants are only just showing.
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« Reply #70 on: February 12, 2011, 05:02:25 PM »
Mine too. Nice little daff Ian.

Here is Narcissus cantabricus 'Antequera' from Paul Christian's catalogue last year although the catalogue spelling was 'Antiquera which must be wrong. A pretty little thing but I don't think it warrents a name I'd be just as happy with it as N. cantabricus.

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« Reply #71 on: February 12, 2011, 07:07:16 PM »
Ian, your very nice little daff looks like it as a touch of cyclamineus blood in it.
Rafa - is albicans something I would recognise under a different name?
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« Reply #72 on: February 12, 2011, 07:15:50 PM »
Mine too. Nice little daff Ian.

Here is Narcissus cantabricus 'Antequera' from Paul Christian's catalogue last year although the catalogue spelling was 'Antiquera which must be wrong. A pretty little thing but I don't think it warrents a name I'd be just as happy with it as N. cantabricus.

David - I think the name of the town can be spelled either way. I had 'Antiquera' from Christian a couple of years ago which  looked completely different! I killed it fairly quickly. I remember some time ago Diane Clement posted a photo of plants in the wild near this town which looked rather more like the one I had:

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4631.msg118739#msg118739
« Last Edit: February 12, 2011, 07:19:25 PM by Gerry Webster »
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« Reply #73 on: February 12, 2011, 07:27:01 PM »
A small narcissus with upright small flowers. I believe this one is Narcissus cantabricus ssp. eualbidus
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« Reply #74 on: February 12, 2011, 07:27:16 PM »
Anne this is a list of synonyms

≡ Corbularia albicans Haworth, Syn. pl. succ. app.: 332, nº 1* (1812); Narciss. revis.: 122-
123, nº ii.4 (1819)

= Narcissus Graëllsii Graells var. granatensis del Amo, Restaur. Farm. 1861: 7-8 (1861)

≡ Narcissus nivalis Graells var. granatensis (del Amo) del Amo, Fl. Fan. Peníns. Ibérica 1:
493-494 (1871)

≡ Narcissus ×litigiosus del Amo nvar. granatensis (del Amo) Fernández Casas, Fontqueria
55(35): 273 (2005)

= Narcissus ×Magni-Antonii Fernández Casas, Fontqueria 14: 18-19, nº 82 (27-ii-1987), ut
Narcissus cantabricus De Candolle × N. tenuifolius Salisbury

= Narcissus ×Barræ Fernández Casas, Fontqueria 14: 18, nº 80 (27-ii-1987), ut Narcissus
Bulbocodium Linnaeus × N. cantabricus De Candolle

= Narcissus ×neocarpetanus Rivas Ponce, Soriano & Fernández Casas nothovar. romanensis
Ureña, Anales Jard. Bot. Madrid 43(1): 185 (1986), ut Narcissus Bulbocodium
Linnaeus × N. cantabricus De Candolle
In my opinion this is a valid hybrid, from my friend Fernando Ureña, but probably is N. albicans in the place of N. cantabricus one of the parents, we are studying this...

≡ Narcissus cantabricus De Candolle subsp. luteolentus Barra & G. López, Anales Jard.
Bot. Madrid 39(1): 73 (1982)
I support this species, but not a subsp. from cantabricus, it is in fact N. blancoi

= Narcissus Blancoi Barra & G. López, Anales Jard. Bot. Madrid 50(1): 123 (1992), nom.
nov. pro Narcissus cantabricus De Candolle subsp. luteolentus Barra Lázaro & López
González (1982)
I personally support this species, (although I can't prove it) because is the same case than N. albicans, it is also a young species but in this case I think its origin was a successful hybrid between N. cantabricus and N. hedraeanthus. N. albicans would be a successful hybrid between N. cantabricus and N. bulbocodium L.
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