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March Narcissus 2011
« on: March 02, 2011, 07:13:14 AM »
Thank you for all showing great Narcissus pictures :) I'm really enjoying to see them.

I've got 2 bulbs labelled as Narcissus triandrus x N. cantabricus var. petunioides. Their flower stalks are too short to hang its flowers down...
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2011, 10:09:12 AM »
Quote from: Rafa on March 01, 2011, 08:53:03 PM
Gerry, I never seen this N. albidus in the wild, but I would say it is the same species than N. albicans, or a north African speciation from the same species. Saying this In my opinion there are 3 forms of N. albicans and (f. cantabricus, f. intermedia and f. bulbocodium) To me N. albidus is N. albicans f. cantabricus, impossible to make the differences trough pictures. I think I posted before these pictures, all of them are N. albicans.

Thanks Rafa, these bulbocodiums are a nightmare!
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2011, 11:59:13 AM »
You are absolutely right Gerry...
Friday I will make an expedition to Jaen, probably the richest place in species from Iberia. I will make an hyper-post with all the most interesting pictures. I hope I could picture a special pupulation that it will change all your concepts of Narcissi  :o ??? ;D
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2011, 12:29:50 PM »
Tatsuo, very nice little N. x matritensis ¿do you know the procedence?
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2011, 12:51:50 PM »
Quote from: Rafa on March 02, 2011, 11:59:13 AM
You are absolutely right Gerry...
Friday I will make an expedition to Jaen, probably the richest place in species from Iberia. I will make an hyper-post with all the most interesting pictures. I hope I could picture a special pupulation that it will change all your concepts of Narcissi  :o ??? ;D

 Rafa, that sounds wonderful.... may I suggest you place the posts in a special thread?
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 03:03:32 PM »
Quote from: Rafa on March 02, 2011, 12:29:50 PM
Tatsuo, very nice little N. x matritensis ¿do you know the procedence?

Gracias, Rafa :)

Unfortunately I’m not sure the origin of my too short hybrid. Now I actually have a question about its parentage ??? If one side parent were true ‘var. petunioides’, the hybrid would have more open-mouthed corona (like as a picture in J. S. Wells’ ‘Modern Miniature Daffodils’, p.115, bottom right) than mine ??? ??? I suppose mine is a hybrid between N. triandrus and some N. cantabricus variation with short stem ??? ??? ??? So I mentioned ‘labelled as’ in my previous post ;)
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 07:58:25 PM »
Tatsuo, In this hybrid, it doesn't matter if the parent were f. petunioides, sub. petunioides, kesticus etc.... the result with pallidulus will be the same plant N. x matritensis. But in your plants, appart little scape, I can see N. b. graellsii, N. b. nivalis or N. b. validus leaf, I think is another crosses probably N x matritensis x N. bulbocodium subsp.(nivalis ??? )
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2011, 10:16:32 PM »
It is very nice, and well grown. Maybe the stem will get longer as the flowers open?
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2011, 10:18:15 PM »
Rafa - they should all be confusus! I look forward to seeing your report from Jaen.
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2011, 11:35:23 PM »
WE are all confusus, or confusa in my case. ??? ??? ??? ;D
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2011, 03:56:38 PM »
Quote from: Rafa on March 02, 2011, 07:58:25 PM
Tatsuo, In this hybrid, it doesn't matter if the parent were f. petunioides, sub. petunioides, kesticus etc.... the result with pallidulus will be the same plant N. x matritensis. But in your plants, appart little scape, I can see N. b. graellsii, N. b. nivalis or N. b. validus leaf, I think is another crosses probably N x matritensis x N. bulbocodium subsp.(nivalis ??? )

That sounds very interesting, Rafa :o I thought N. x matritensis is sterile. So my hybrid narcissus has probably more complex background ???

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It is very nice, and well grown. Maybe the stem will get longer as the flowers open?

Thanks Anne :) The oldest flower is already 9 day-old today but they still touch the soil surface :(
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2011, 10:16:43 AM »
should we not now have a thread for spring?
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 11:29:06 AM »
Quote from: Tony Willis on March 04, 2011, 10:16:43 AM
should we not now have a thread for spring?

 Hmmm... some unaccustomed optimism from you there, Tony?  ;) ;D ;D

 You may be right.... it is Spring from some of the super photos...... I'll go make a split to the thread!

 Februay  is split off http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6855 ( with some March posts as a continuation of a discussion)

and now this is March Narcisssus     :D
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2011, 03:16:57 PM »
Narcissus asturiensis

This form from Susan Band (Pitcairn Alpines).
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2011, 05:40:31 PM »
A very nice photo of one of my favourite narcissi.
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