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mark smyth

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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #75 on: September 08, 2007, 11:32:16 AM »
no the petals have always been longer
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #76 on: September 08, 2007, 04:59:29 PM »
A couple of colchicums in the garden today

The first is nicely tessellated and the second is 'Rosy Dawn'

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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #77 on: September 08, 2007, 10:46:01 PM »
Rob your first one may be C. agripinum

Here is a comparison shot of my tenorii and labelled as C. tenorii
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #78 on: September 09, 2007, 11:11:39 AM »
Robs first one is C aggripinum.
Mark perhaps they are just two forms of C tenorii.  I am sure that Colchicum must be variable in the wild as Crocus are.  Unlike most species crocus, colchicum are often quick to increase by corm allowing individual clones to be freely distributed.  Your 'true' C tenorii looks just like mine - same clone perhaps.

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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #79 on: September 10, 2007, 10:08:39 AM »
Colchicum Lilac Wonder
" aggripinum

The last one is an unidentified from Greece - can anybody help?
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #80 on: September 10, 2007, 11:48:54 AM »
Colchicum "The Giant",the fist variety to flower in my garden
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #81 on: September 10, 2007, 12:44:41 PM »
Hello and welcome back Zhirair!

Your colchicums are very late compared with mine!
When did you plant them?
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #82 on: September 10, 2007, 01:04:12 PM »
Thomas, your last one could be cupanii? It is very like my Colchicum corsicum which is flowering now in the greenhouse, along with C. atticum and C. montanum.
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #83 on: September 10, 2007, 02:12:14 PM »
Anthony, I don't think this is cupanii. Compared with this photo of
Colchicum cupanii it has a complete different flower shape:
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #84 on: September 10, 2007, 06:50:55 PM »
Hi Thomas, Anthony,

The colour of the anthers is dark in cupanii and the styles are more or less straight rather than bended (or bent?) at the top. A more obvious feature of cupanii is that it flowers with the leaves present.

The picture of the unidentified species is one of several Greek species in the complex C. graecum group. Other candidates are C. confusum, C. autumnale and probably a few others. Do you know from where it was introduced?
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #85 on: September 11, 2007, 06:05:40 AM »
Hello Thomas!

I didn't replant most of my colchicums this year, including the one posted above. I think the blooming time is normal for Armenia. My colchicums usually start blooming from the beginning of September.

I have an unknown colchicum hybrid resembling yours in the first pis. I thought that it could be autumnale, but it produces very large leaves, which are caracteristic for speciosum hybrids. Anyway, it has flowers of medium size and very floriferous. Here is what it looks like

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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #86 on: September 11, 2007, 07:43:45 AM »
Hi Kees!

Great to have a Colchicum expert here finally!
Sorry, I don't know, from where exactly the plant is, but I will try to find out and ask my friend!

Zhirair, my Colchicum autumnale have the same large leaves like speciosum, but I don't think
your unknown hybrid is one of these, both look different. To be honest: I can't help you - sorry  :-\
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #87 on: September 11, 2007, 08:22:18 AM »
Googling Colchicums last night I see there are too many that look alike

'Harlekijn' would in my top five favourite Colchicums. Here it is again showing almost full colour

and a small group of perfect speciosus 'Alba' showing the lovely combination of pristine white and green stems/tubes

Most of the early ones in the garden are now almost over. It's been so good to have no rain at Colchicum time
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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #88 on: September 11, 2007, 08:39:56 AM »
Mark,

Your colchicum are just superb!!! Both are great.

Here is your colchicum speciosum Album (last year photo)

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Re: Colchicums autumn 2007
« Reply #89 on: September 11, 2007, 09:36:47 AM »
I couldnt remember who I sent them to but thought it may have been you
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