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Author Topic: Iris and some Irids 2008  (Read 27709 times)

Paul T

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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #255 on: July 08, 2008, 12:15:52 AM »
So was this at some point a Moraea?  Those flowers look SO like them.  Beautiful display, stunning individual flowers.... not one I've seen other than here before (I think when Lesley posted a pic of it previously).  Lovely!! 8)
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #256 on: July 08, 2008, 04:34:12 AM »
I don't think I. decora has ever been included in Moraea Paul. It is one of a very small group of tuberous rooted irises and dies down each autumn to a thick bunch of thong-like roots, not unlike those of a Juno iris, but without the bulb between the thongs and the stock. It is native to the Himalaya and
I. nepalensis is a synonym. Some books say it is weak and small flowered. I've not found either of these to be true. The flowers are about 7 cms across when fully open. They just last a day but there are many more over three months from Dec in the SH.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #257 on: July 08, 2008, 06:02:01 AM »
Interesting, Lesley.  I was just going by your pic, where the flowers look very Moraea-ish to my eye.  It is a stunner, isn't it.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #258 on: July 08, 2008, 11:13:30 AM »
Before someone, rightly, tells me I don't know my 'r's' from my elbow I've just edited the above post where I called Iris decora 'decorum', but can't see how to amend the same mistake in my picture file title. It's time I showed a little more decorum :P 

I think the only way to edit the tittle of a picture file is to remove it then , having renamed it in your computer, repost the new file... all  rather tedious, and, the corrected name in the text of your post is the only one the search engine will pick- up on. This last point, by the way, and for the information of all (not aimed at you , David,) is why it is necessary to have the picture titiles listed in the text of posts!  8)
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #259 on: July 08, 2008, 11:39:58 AM »
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Before someone, rightly, tells me I don't know my 'r's' from my elbow I've just edited the above post where I called Iris decora 'decorum', but can't see how to amend the same mistake in my picture file title. It's time I showed a little more decorum

I think it is easier to resize a new picture from the original first and then go
to the posting and modify. Remove the wrong named pic. and go to Additional Options etc.
That's the way I've it done several times already.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #260 on: July 08, 2008, 07:25:28 PM »
Done, file has been re-named. Thanks Luit and Maggi.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #261 on: August 18, 2008, 07:20:39 PM »
Here's a picture, taken today, of Iris lazica, it actually has two flowers open. What a crazy climate this is currently, my first flowers last year were on 4 December.

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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #262 on: August 18, 2008, 07:34:53 PM »
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my first flowers last year were on 4 December
extraordinary, isn't it?
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #263 on: August 19, 2008, 12:30:28 AM »
David,

Flowering here at the moment too!!  Has been in flower for a while, and usually goes until November or so, from memory.  It starts well into winter, unlike it's unguicularis cousins, but flowers much later into spring.  A very nice extension of the "winter iris" range.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #264 on: October 16, 2008, 02:56:21 AM »
Here are two iris which are in flower today;
the first was received as "possibly I. filifolia"
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And the second was labelled I. albertii,
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Can anyone vouch for them???
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #265 on: October 16, 2008, 04:01:56 AM »
Not sure Fermi. I. filifolia belongs to Xiphium group, same as Dutch, English etc and I. albertii is a bearded species. According to Mathew ("The Iris") and referring to one Major-General M W Prynne, I. filifolia can be positively identified by a "purple- and white-blotched sheath which encloses the young shoot as it emerges from the soil."

I. albertii is described in the wild as varying from "lavender to purplish-violet with brownish-red veining on the haft of the falls."
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #266 on: October 16, 2008, 05:01:42 AM »
Iris filifolia looks right: Flowers: 1-2, dark reddish-purple; orange patch on falls; tube 0.12-0.3 cm long.
leaves: glaucous, 0.05-0.3 cm wide, appearing in autumn.
from A Guide to Species Irises
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #267 on: October 16, 2008, 06:36:33 PM »
Fermi - not  being specialist I think it looks more like tingitana than filifolia - please have a look here:
http://www.badbear.com/signa/signa.pl?Display+Iris-tingitana+4+4 - hope our spanish Iris and Narcissus specialist will have a look... ;) 8)

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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #268 on: October 17, 2008, 10:53:56 AM »
Hans, Iris tingitana has silvery-green, thread-like leaves, appearing in autumn according to A Guide to Species Irises and Iris filifolia var. filifolia has thread-like leaves too.
I don't grow any at the moment - some seedlings coming on.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2008
« Reply #269 on: October 17, 2008, 12:54:38 PM »
I grow both species and I think Fermi's one could  be any Dutch hybrid based in Iris tingitana (x I. xiphium I think). It is very different fom the plants I grow... I enclose a picture of a classic Iris filifolia from my friend in Cordoba.

 


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