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« Reply #135 on: June 05, 2010, 07:48:22 PM »
Graham, WOW, what a fabulous iris and what a colour, I love it  :)
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« Reply #136 on: June 05, 2010, 08:37:10 PM »
Very nice Graham. My iris chrysographes 'Inshriach Form' grown from Seed Ex. seed turned out to be I. pseudacorus :(
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« Reply #137 on: June 06, 2010, 04:29:13 AM »
Thank you Chris. It is lovely indeed. I think (if it's the same one as you showed in bud) that I was wrong and it IS a Louisiana, not the spuria hybrid I suggested.

There is a good sibirica hybrid called 'Butter and Sugar." Could that be your white and yellow one?
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« Reply #138 on: June 06, 2010, 07:55:15 AM »
I was at John Massey's garden open day yesterday at Ashwood nurseries.  He has a fantastic border of Iris sibirica cultivars of which I particularly liked 'Shaker's Prayer' - a tall form with the flowers held clear of the foliage and beautifully veined petals.  Sadly they didn't have any sibiricas for sale in the nursery but they did have a lovely display of 'Wisley White'.
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« Reply #139 on: June 06, 2010, 10:05:31 AM »
What a beautiful garden and planting Gail, thanks so much for showing  :)  I really like the simple form of I.sibirica as you describe:

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I particularly liked 'Shaker's Prayer' - a tall form with the flowers held clear of the foliage and beautifully veined petals

What strikes me most is the fountain effect of interplanting of Carex and other plants with wonderful leaf display so the irises shine above and the animals hidden within, expecially the otter  8)
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« Reply #140 on: June 06, 2010, 10:29:02 AM »
For any lurkers in Ireland and members

I was in the botanic gardens in Dublin yesterday. The Iris collection is stunning ... and the scent!
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« Reply #141 on: June 06, 2010, 07:17:49 PM »
Some Iris sibirica forms from the garden today.

Iris sibirica 'Chartreuse Bounty'
Iris sibirica 'Gulls Wing'
iris sibirica 'Sparkling Rose' a little past it's best.
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« Reply #142 on: June 06, 2010, 11:50:04 PM »
The sibiricas at Ashwood are certainly beautiful and especially so in plantings where each one enhances the next. One of the particular attractions of sibiricas, for me at any rate, is the way the stiff flower stems move in a light wind, very gracefully, the leaves moving more quickly and the whole plant like two instruments playing superbly together; a sibirica sonata. :)
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« Reply #143 on: June 07, 2010, 09:35:15 AM »
@lesley, jamie mean it too....thanks
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« Reply #144 on: June 07, 2010, 11:55:29 AM »
hi, an iris, bought as a spuria wildform...any idea, high over one meter, sunny place, dry soil...

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« Reply #145 on: June 07, 2010, 12:11:46 PM »
Possibly Iris spuria ssp. carthalinae ???
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« Reply #146 on: June 07, 2010, 12:22:49 PM »
david, i donīt know, sorry...possibly iris spuria ssp. ochroleuca  ???
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« Reply #147 on: June 07, 2010, 02:53:03 PM »
Chris,  I would agree with David, I. spuria ssp cathalinae carthaliniae.  I. sp. ochroleuca should have a regular blotch of yellow, like an egg yolk, and is typically taller, about 150cm.

This whole group of iris is not really well documented and understood.  Plus, there are a lot of hybrids and intergrades about.
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« Reply #148 on: June 07, 2010, 08:12:46 PM »
hello jamie, an actually photo from the flower...

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« Reply #149 on: June 07, 2010, 08:58:36 PM »
Chris,

it fits the general description of I. carthaliniae (thanks for correcting my spelling Maggie!  :-* ).  As I mentioned, there is a lot of confusion as to what is what in this group of iris.  Some authors divide them into autart species, while others see them as sub-species under spuria and orientalis, while some see them all as spuria.  To add to the confusion, most are found in white/yellow and blue/yellow forms.  I personally place the forms with the egg-yolk spot under I. orientalis and those with the stripe under I. spuria.  The others are mainly differentiated by height, leaf bredth, slight variations in colouring, etc.

Attached is what I grow as I. orientalis, but it may be of hybrid origin.
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