Iris and some Irids 2011

[daveyp1970]

two from me.
1&2.Iris pumila from David Shaw love the colour.
3.Iris  lutescens(i think) sent to me as attica from PC.

[Michael J Campbell]

Iris Hylorid

[arillady]

Noticed this seedling flowering today - one of the first iris for the year.
It is a pseudopumila x aril - I showed it last year.
I was removing dead leaves on another pseudopumila cross next to it and to my dismay I realised they had rotted.
The whole clump has been dug up and any pieces that look ok are soaking in Fongarid - I hope this stops the rot in its tracks.
This is the first of my "babies" to rot. We have had warmth and rain but the night time temps are declining now.

[Regelian]

Pat,

what a cutie!  Sad about the rot.  One always finds it too late.  I'm seeing virus on many imports, possibly due to the stress.  I want to think they appeared virus-free in their home gardens, but I suspect virus is MUCH more prevelant than we realize, just not always visible.  Good culture is a two way sword. 

[David Nicholson]

Here's what I have as Iris 'Paltec', a cross between I. pallida and I. tectorum. We had a discussion last year when I posted this plant (on 20 May 2010, this really is a funny old year) as to whether it was or was not the real I 'Peltec' and both views appeared to make sense!

Also below is Iris setosa ssp canadensis (syn I hookeri). I think, Lesley will know if it is, and if it is she kindly sent me the seed.

[Tom Waters]

FWIW, I vote "not Paltec"!

[Ezeiza]

Jamie, that is a point! Nitrogen feertilizing masks virus symptoms by turning the green color too intense.

But, newly emerging leaves always show symptoms at the tips.

And, what you say about stress is so true. If the plant changes country (or worse, Hemisphere) and show no symptoms, put your money on it.

[David Nicholson]

FWIW, I vote "not Paltec"!

Value your opinion Tom. Could you add a few words as to how my plant differs from the "true" 'Paltec' please?

[WimB]

Here some small Irisses which are in flower now:

Iris 'Forever Blue'
Iris 'Open Sky'
Iris schachtii (2 x)
and an unknown, completely white, small bearded Iris

[arilnut]

Hi David. Paltec is solid lavender color and has no beard but a crest. Here is the description from
Iris city Gardens.  Mine will bloom in the next week and I'll post a pic. It is also a smaller flower.
than yours.
Did the one I sent to Peter T for you make it?

John B
   
"PALTEC (Denis 1928)
Bight lavender bloom with gold and white crest area, grows in regular garden soil. A cross between I. tectorum and the bearded iris EDINA."

FWIW, I vote "not Paltec"!

Value your opinion Tom. Could you add a few words as to how my plant differs from the "true" 'Paltec' please?

[Tom Waters]

What John said.

I did see it in a friend's garden many years ago; definitely self-colored and with a tectorum-like crest rather than a full beard.

[Tom Waters]

'Loudmouth' (Rich 1970), an arilbred dwarf and a long-time favorite of mine.

[Tom Waters]

Yay! Noticed the first sprouting seedling of the year today, Iris pumila I got from Joseph Jurasek.

[PeterT]

Hi David. Paltec is solid lavender color and has no beard but a crest. Here is the description from
Iris city Gardens.  Mine will bloom in the next week and I'll post a pic. It is also a smaller flower.
than yours.
Did the one I sent to Peter T for you make it?

John B
   
"PALTEC (Denis 1928)
Bight lavender bloom with gold and white crest area, grows in regular garden soil. A cross between I. tectorum and the bearded iris EDINA."

FWIW, I vote "not Paltec"!

Value your opinion Tom. Could you add a few words as to how my plant differs from the "true" 'Paltec' please?

Yes John, as I said in my reply to your email, the Paltec you sent is growing.
David's plant is what is in circultion as Paltec in the UK. Its rhizome, leaf and flower are not typical of a tall bearded Iris and resemble I tectorum, it does not have a crest however.
Lots of people may have recreated the cross since it was discoverd.
A pure white example might be attractive?

[Tom Waters]

This is a good example of why current rules for naming cultivars do not allow names that are the same as species names or produced by combining parts of the names of two different species. It invites confusion between the particular registered cultivar and other plants produced from the same species cross. 'Paltec' is a registered cultivar; the name should not be used for other pallida-tectorum hybrids.