Iris and some Irids 2011

[arillady]

Now to shut my mouth before I put my foot in it again

[PeterT]

Its a lovely hybred Pat. can you produce any hand pollinated seed from the pseudopumila parent(s) though?

[Ezeiza]

Sicily is an island and the Peninsula of Gargano is the famous area where several rare bulbs occur (I wonder if I should have mentioned this). Yes, Pat, you read me right. I did not think wild provenance plants would be hybridized to distribute their seeds, NAMED.

[PeterT]

Alberto, I  think Pat should be congratulated in growing Iris Pseudopumila, an older pogon species uncommon in gardens, and  in creating a lovely Arilbred Iris.
(Iris pseudopumila overlaps with Iris attica, and this is thought to have created Iris pumila), as well as a pretty set of Iris unguicularis.
According to the BIS seed exchange list for 2003/4 - which I have in my hand.
Harold Mathes donated two lots of Iris pseudopumila seed to the exchange.
"pseudopumila (Malta x Gargano), yellow, brown spot, HP"
"pseudopumila HP(Sicily x Gargano) yellow, brown spot, HP"
Quite possiably something has been mis copied in producing the list, or else 
Harold Mathes has been putting Iris pseudopumila pollen from Maltese and Scicillian plants onto plants of pseudopumila from the Gargano.
Pat,
If you feel you know him well enough Perhaps you could send Harold Mathes an email to see if your pseudopumila represent local forms or a larger gene pool?

[Ezeiza]

I have it under cultivation along with the other local, I. bicapitata, and from Gargano. Grown from seed but not flowering size so far. Thanks, Peter. Thanks David.

[PeterT]

I have Iris variagata from the Gargano too, grown from H Mathes seeds,    though this sounds quite far south for it's range

[arillady]

Yes I got both lots of seed from the BIS that year.
I will contact Harald and ask him.
After a quite a while in the same position I decided to move some of it. I have also left the plants in situ too long so I do need to move the whole two patches of both which have intertwined.  It will not be too hard to tell the difference when they flower. I moved some of it a few months ago.
This working caper gets in the way of gardening too much.
I will try some self pollinating when the parent flowers Peter.
The hybrid is pretty specky in the dark purple colour with the slight rim of limey yellow and the standards stand upright.
We are having rainy periods so the window of pollinating opportunity is slim.

[Tom Waters]

Very interesting to see the pseudopumila x onco seedling. I'm hoping to try some attica x onco crosses at some point, a very similar idea, as far as the chromosomes are concerned.

[arillady]

From Harald Mathes:
"The Gargano area is a well-known site of I.pseudopumila. The plants there are smaller than those of Sicily, but both have 2n = 8+8 = 16 chromosomes. A few years ago Nigel Service of France had visited the small islands Malta and Gozo which are situated south of Sicily. He found irises there which are even larger. Among the plants which came to my hands was one which seemed to have 40 (12+8+12+8). Unfortunately I was not able to run a better squash preparation, but another plant from Malta was found to have 16.
When I got the BIS seed exchange list for 2003/4 I didn’t notice that something had been miscopied. When I wrote Malta x Gargano, the Iris from Malta was the pod parent, for the rule is: pod parent first, pollen parent second.
Are you sure that your PT0786 cross is true? If it has pollen and gives seed it is a pure pseudopumila."

I was having doubts whether the pseudopumila x aril cross did take or if bees helped me too.
It is just that the overall plant, flower and colouring were bigger and stronger than the parent pseudopumila but Harald does state that there were larger plants in Malta and Gozo. And the seedling is in good soil.

[PeterT]

Thanks for this Pat,
Is your 'cross' fertile and therefore pure pseudopumila?(unless another species got in by bee of course) an F2 generation of I pseudopumila ex Malta x Pseudopumila ex Gargano?
 

[arillady]

I will have to check for pollen tomorrow afternoon.

[Gerhard Raschun]

There were gone many weeks without flowering Iris spp. , but I haven`t found the time to show you some of my new iris species or fist flowering seedlings. Here are some of them:

[Gerhard Raschun]

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and more, please enjoy