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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2011, 08:35:50 PM »
Does this species have a good scent Jim?

I don't know -- 70+ years of allergies and 40 years as a bench chemist pretty much wiped out my sense of smell years ago.

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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2011, 09:25:24 PM »
This is a hybrid

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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2011, 10:20:14 PM »
The way the colour of the outer stripe is reflected in the stamens and style is  very neat. Smart "design" !! :)
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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2011, 11:01:39 PM »
Most attractive!  Rich rose on pale pink.

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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2011, 08:43:53 PM »
Time to report back on self-pollinating Crinum razafindratsiraea:  no seeds.  None at all. 

Selfing C. lugardiae produced about 4 or 5 seeds that don't look very healthy, so I just stuck them into the soil in the same pot with their mother.  Unlike razafindratsiraea, I have several clones of lugardiae and I can try next year if I pay more attention to my crinums.  And if I get them repotted this winter; they are languishing from neglect, I fear.

And then, there is one bud on one pot of Crinum carlo-schmidtii.  We'll see what happens there, too.

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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 07:58:29 PM »
I noticed this Crinum with a flower still on it when I was at the Cruickshank Botanic Garden in Aberdeen for the late plant sale last Saturday.  I thought some of you might be interested.  It is an enormous plant and has been in that position for over 30 years.
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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2011, 08:07:52 PM »
It could easily be a hybrid, but it looks rather like Crinum moorei, which is a late-bloomer.  Very nice!

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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2011, 08:11:27 PM »
 Seeing the Cruickshank plant reminds me that Mike and Polly Stone had a HUGE clump of Crinum ( which I think was C. moorei) at Askival.... it flowered very well. Wonder if it is still there? Must ask John Owen!
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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2011, 09:07:33 PM »
JIm, looks like a very battered clump of the pink x powellii.  Maybe an elephant spend the night  on it.
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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2011, 09:20:46 PM »
I don't think there are too many elephants in the Cruickshank Botanic Garden  :o


Now that I think about it, the large plants at Askival may well have been C. x powellii.

Here's a Crinum postage stamp with an Irish connection ( the Stones live in Ireland now!)
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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2011, 09:30:04 PM »
I'll buy the x-powellii diagnosis.  Moorei's most distinctive characteristic seems to be the pseudo-stem the leaf bases make.  I don't really see pseudostems in the photos.  The main argument against x-powellii would be that the flower looks fairly attractive in the picture, while all the pink powellii I  grow really look pretty wretched in bloom.

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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2011, 10:12:03 PM »
I don't know much about Crinums so haven't a clue about the ID.  I found a couple of pics I took on May 5th. I cropped the second to show what I think are pseudostems.  They look like long bulb necks.  The photo is taken from above so their length is not obvious. 
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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2011, 11:38:38 PM »
The detail of a red edge to the foliage is curious.
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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2011, 11:48:12 PM »
Moorei prefers shade, so too much sun could account for some defensive anthocyanin in the leaves.

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Re: Crinum 2011
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2011, 07:40:58 PM »
Moorei prefers shade, so too much sun could account for some defensive anthocyanin in the leaves.

Jim

Too much sun in Aberdeen seems unlikely; it's about the same latitude as Moscow.
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