Nerine 2011

[Hoy]

Some very nice colourful Nerines here! My plant - from one seed once upon a time - is more modest! But it produces a lot of flowers on long scapes (they are all in one small pot). I don't know the species.

[Ezeiza]

If liquid manure is animal manure, how can you control the nitrogen content of manure?

[PeterT]

you use manure which is two or three years old, or more, Alberto. It should have been left for the rain and wind to remove most of the nitrogen and a solution made  from it be very diluted. 

[jshields]

My Nerine sarniensis hybrids -- some of them, anyway -- are in bloom.

Nerine sarniensis 'Garnet Glory'
Nerine sarniensis 'Inchmery Kate'
Nerine sarniensis 'Koho'
Nerine sarniensis 'Miss Willmott'
Nerine sarniensis 'Uganda'

To the naked eye, 'Uganda' looks to be some sort of lavender-purple.  To the camera, it looks red or orange or something.  The picture shown was taken on a rainy day, which brought out as much of the "purple" as I was able to get.

Jim

[angie]

Wow that Inchmery Kate is really nice.

Angie

[jshields]

My memory is totally unreliable, but I think 'Inchmery Kate' is a polyploid.  Someone some years back looked at the chromosomes or DNA of several of the cultivars of Nerine sarniensis (maybe Ben Zonneveld?).  Some were not simple diploids like the species sarniensis, bowdenii, etc.  'Kate' is bigger and more robust than the dozen other sarniensis hybrids I have here, and she sure looks polyploid to me.  Could she be a true sarniensis-bowdenii hybrid?  In actual fact, I really have no clue.  But I'd like to know.

Jim

[bulborum]

Is there one of the members who knows an good nursery
to buy Botanical  and hybrid sarniensis Nerines
would be nice if we can visit the nursery too
best not to far from Dover (I mean not 200 or more km)

Roland

[jshields]

Simply go to Nikki de Rothschild's web site or his nursery.  My 'Garnet Glory', 'Koho', and 'Uganda' came from Nikki.

Jim

[jshields]

The 'Inchmery Kate' and 'Miss Willmott' are old-timers, sent to me by a friend in a fit of pique that I had till then refused to even try to grow any of the sarniensis hybrids.  I did kill about half the ones he sent me, but the rest, including 'Kate', are still hanging on and occasionally blooming.  Their survival prompted me to try some of Nikki's fine new hybrids.

Jim

[angie]

Jim I am scared to ask but I will, what is polyploid 

Angie

[jshields]

Polyploids:

Diploids have two sets of chromosomes, one pair of each type.  Humans are diploids.  Tetraploids have 4 individual chromosomes of each type.  A polyploid is any organism that has more than two chromosomes of each type.  A tetraploid is a polyploid.  So is a triploid, which has three individual chromosomes of each type.

If this isn't clear, ask again please.

Jim

[angie]

No Jim that's fine, explained very well. I can't wait till I ask my husband if he knows what polyploid means. He is always bamboozling me, he loves history, science and is always telling me things that I don't understand. I will impress him this time.
Thanks for the explanation.

Angie

[JoshY46013]

Angie,

   You make me so happy, I love that you aren't ashamed to ask questions because you know, at one point Jim didn't know this either!

[angie]

Angie,

   You make me so happy, I love that you aren't ashamed to ask questions because you know, at one point Jim didn't know this either!

Like at school if you didn't ask you never got the help. That's what went wrong with me I never put my hand up in class.
Angie

[majallison]

"My memory is totally unreliable, but I think 'Inchmery Kate' is a polyploid.  Someone some years back looked at the chromosomes or DNA of several of the cultivars of Nerine sarniensis (maybe Ben Zonneveld?).  Some were not simple diploids like the species sarniensis, bowdenii, etc.  'Kate' is bigger and more robust than the dozen other sarniensis hybrids I have here, and she sure looks polyploid to me.  Could she be a true sarniensis-bowdenii hybrid?  In actual fact, I really have no clue.  But I'd like to know."

It's controversial & different investigations have given different results, so it's uncertain whether 'Inchmery Kate' is diploid or tetraploid; its parentage is reported to be either a selfing of 'Alice', an Exbury hybrid with the parentage 'Aurora' x undulata Flexuosa Alba group, or a seedling from 'Alice' pollinated by 'Lady Foster' (a pink sarniensis hybrid bred by H.J. Elwes before 1922).