We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Frit. imperialis  (Read 3788 times)

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Frit. imperialis
« on: September 05, 2011, 09:48:05 PM »
It's been many yers since I bought, grew and failed with Frit imperialis.

I could smell them in a local garden centre today but I resisted. Now I'm itching to try them again.

Is there a guaranteed way to grow them in the open garden?

Gritty soil or humus rich soil?
Upright or on their sides
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

PeterT

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1369
  • Country: gb
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 10:01:08 PM »
well drained works for me, they MUST have lime. I have them in a cool position where they never flower, A hot dry position next to Eremurus himalayicus which also flowers well (better than the frit) there. I give extra water and growmore to this spot in spring there is plenty of lime rubble here. Also in the west of scotland finally achieved a flower (for the second time in ten years) in a well drained cool position with some sun, by annual dressings of lime and fertiliser. I flower eduardii and raddeana in large pots with a 50 / 50 mix of JI 3 and fine grit + extra bone meal and dolomitic lime and a little peat or leaf mould in the mix. they like the pots to be plunged or kept cool.
living near Stranraer, Scotland. Gardening in the West of Scotland.

bulborum

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1462
  • Country: fr
  • Botanical bulbofiel
    • Facebook Forum
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 10:16:17 PM »
Mark

be sure they have roots when you buy them
without white or creamy roots they are many times dead
and plant them deep 20 cm soil above the bulb

Roland
Zone <8   -7°C _ -12°C  10 F to +20 F
RGB or RBGG means:
We collect mother plants or seeds ourself in the nature and multiply them later on the nursery

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bulborum/

For other things see:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Pumpkins.Tomatoes.Sweet.and.mild.Peppers

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 10:21:56 PM »
I have lime stone sand would this do?

thanks for the advise
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

Brian Ellis

  • Brian the Britisher
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5205
  • Country: england
  • 'Dropoholic
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 10:24:17 PM »
Feed, feed, feed.  Dad used to grow them and always put loads of manure on them.
Brian Ellis, Brooke, Norfolk UK. altitude 30m Mintemp -8C

bulborum

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1462
  • Country: fr
  • Botanical bulbofiel
    • Facebook Forum
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 03:19:15 PM »
Sorry forgot that

Brian is right

My grandfather always said
They love to swim in the shit  ;D

Roland
Zone <8   -7°C _ -12°C  10 F to +20 F
RGB or RBGG means:
We collect mother plants or seeds ourself in the nature and multiply them later on the nursery

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bulborum/

For other things see:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Pumpkins.Tomatoes.Sweet.and.mild.Peppers

Luc Gilgemyn

  • VRV President & Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5528
  • Country: be
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2011, 08:50:15 PM »
I have a large clump !
When I leave them in the ground all through the year I get little or no flowers... no matter how much fertilizer I give them..  :'(

If I dig them up when the leaves have shriveled and keep 'em dry in a paper bag in the shed, all through the summer and replant them in late August (when the roots start growing again) in well fertilized soil.... they flower like mad !!!  :D :D

For me, it's the dry summer that does the trick !!
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

David Nicholson

  • Hawkeye
  • Journal Access Group
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13117
  • Country: england
  • Why can't I play like Clapton
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 09:22:06 PM »
I read somewhere that the bulbs are best planted on their sides
David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b
"Victims of satire who are overly defensive, who cry "foul" or just winge to high heaven, might take pause and consider what exactly it is that leaves them so sensitive, when they were happy with satire when they were on the side dishing it out"

bulborum

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1462
  • Country: fr
  • Botanical bulbofiel
    • Facebook Forum
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 09:38:37 PM »
David

Forget this as soon as possible
we call this a fairytale
If you want I explain you where the story comes from

Roland
Zone <8   -7°C _ -12°C  10 F to +20 F
RGB or RBGG means:
We collect mother plants or seeds ourself in the nature and multiply them later on the nursery

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bulborum/

For other things see:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Pumpkins.Tomatoes.Sweet.and.mild.Peppers

David Nicholson

  • Hawkeye
  • Journal Access Group
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13117
  • Country: england
  • Why can't I play like Clapton
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 09:42:34 PM »
David

Forget this as soon as possible
we call this a fairytale
If you want I explain you where the story comes from

Roland


OK Roland
David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b
"Victims of satire who are overly defensive, who cry "foul" or just winge to high heaven, might take pause and consider what exactly it is that leaves them so sensitive, when they were happy with satire when they were on the side dishing it out"

David Pilling

  • Computer Guru
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 459
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2011, 10:02:12 PM »
But, Don Montague, expounded the theory about planting on their sides on TV only last week.

David Pilling at the seaside in North West England.

bulborum

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1462
  • Country: fr
  • Botanical bulbofiel
    • Facebook Forum
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 10:08:34 PM »
For buying Fritillaria imperialis bulbs
always if you are not sure
buy bulbs with roots like picture 3
the first two pictures are probably good bulbs
but picture 3 is sure a good one

Roland
Zone <8   -7°C _ -12°C  10 F to +20 F
RGB or RBGG means:
We collect mother plants or seeds ourself in the nature and multiply them later on the nursery

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bulborum/

For other things see:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Pumpkins.Tomatoes.Sweet.and.mild.Peppers

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 10:09:13 PM »
He did and I thought the bulb will eventually move back to the correct position.
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

bulborum

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1462
  • Country: fr
  • Botanical bulbofiel
    • Facebook Forum
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 10:12:31 PM »
Other David

If you believe a fairytale
keep dreaming
if I start calling you John
and 2000 other people start calling you John
will not say your name is John

Roland
Zone <8   -7°C _ -12°C  10 F to +20 F
RGB or RBGG means:
We collect mother plants or seeds ourself in the nature and multiply them later on the nursery

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bulborum/

For other things see:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Pumpkins.Tomatoes.Sweet.and.mild.Peppers

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Frit. imperialis
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 10:12:42 PM »
Luc I am jealous already. Tomorrow I must go and see what I can find

Maggi, how does Ian grow his?

Harold McBrides do fantastic in very deep leaf mould.
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal