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Rafa

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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #105 on: November 28, 2011, 11:10:38 PM »
Absolutely agree, with Ian.
I am sure some people would say just N. albicans, full stop, or N. cantabricus, full stop.

My personal opinion is that all those not clear species from North Africa are certainly speciations of ancient hybrids. As the same way we have N. albicans, (that I consider it as a successful hybrid between N. cantabricus DC. and Narcissus bulbocodium L.) it would be "African versions" of N. albicans, so Ian's suggestion is the most plausible to me. For sure, N. cantabricus and N. romieuxii, are creating new species, through hybridisation.
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #106 on: November 29, 2011, 03:37:03 PM »
Here's a fully open pot full.

Narcissus cantabricus foliosus
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #107 on: November 29, 2011, 04:20:00 PM »
Very nice Arnold. Just about over here.
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #108 on: November 29, 2011, 04:24:32 PM »
I have another pot full which came from N. Ireland.

Will be interested to see the comparison.
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #109 on: November 29, 2011, 04:33:12 PM »
Very nice Arnold. Just about over here.

.... and mine not out yet!
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #110 on: November 29, 2011, 06:16:47 PM »
Very nice Arnold. Just about over here.
.... and mine not out yet!

There seem to be several stocks or clones of this around. I have 3 which differ  in morphology (size & shape of flower) but only slightly in time of flowering.
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #111 on: November 29, 2011, 11:25:55 PM »
Gosh there are some amazing Narcissus species and photos on this link.
Thanks especially to Rafa for the link to Joaquín's photo gallery
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #112 on: December 03, 2011, 08:59:02 PM »
Here are two N. cantabricus foliosus clones, I believe.

On the left  is the previous one I posted received from Jane McGary, former editor of the Rock Garden Quarterly and the right one from Brian Duncan.
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #113 on: December 03, 2011, 09:34:54 PM »
Just catching up - what a feast!
Joaquín's website is now in my favourites :)
MINIONS! I need more minions!
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #114 on: December 04, 2011, 03:47:09 AM »
I agree Anne. I wonder if he ever has Narcissus elegans seed available?
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #115 on: December 04, 2011, 11:20:04 PM »
I will try to donate next SRGC Index Seminum from this species, although most probably it will be labeled with a new name...
I have donated seeds from this species in past Index Seminum as N. elegans, so if any of yours are growing it, remember to put an interrogate in the label.

Anthony, is it possible to send little bulbs to New Zeland?

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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #116 on: December 05, 2011, 09:31:35 AM »
Rafa New Zealand is worse than Australia.
You would have to label any seed N. elegans if any NZ or Australian were to receive seed.
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #117 on: December 05, 2011, 12:39:34 PM »
Well this case I will donate Narcissus elegans next SRGC.

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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #118 on: December 05, 2011, 12:52:28 PM »
These recent posts are quite an illustration of what difficulties can arise from the seemingly ever-changing names of plants. It is well nigh impossible to expect the import authorities to keep up to speed on the taxonomical changes abounding in the plant world - all of which makes the import of seed even more complicated.  :-X
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011
« Reply #119 on: December 05, 2011, 01:43:08 PM »
Here's one I don't know anything about but I got it from Bob and Rannveig's List in 2010. It didn't flower last year so I don't know if it's early or on time. I have to say it doesn't look different from N. romieuxii or bulbocodium. If anyone can fill this gap in my education I'll be chuffed.

Narcissus jeanmonodii

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