Autumn flowering Narcissus 2011

[Gerdk]

Narcissus viridiflorus

Congratulations!

- and how does it smell?  (Unfortunately I lost my olfactory sense - so I can't
describe it - my wife said she doesn't like the odour of this species)

Gerd

[ArnoldT]

Dave, yes first flowering for me.  Got the bulb from the horticultural Nancy Wilson not the singing one.

I had inquired about the scent.  I think not altogether pleasant.

A bit like laundry detergent for my nose.

[pehe]

Nice to see Narcissus viridiflorus in flower. I have just received some seeds from a generous forum member. With a little luck I can show them flowering in about 5 years...
Until then, I can only show these:

Narcissus serotinus - a pot with 5 bulbs all with flower
Narcissus serotinus seed pod - I hope they are ripe in time for the seed exchange
Narcissus elegans - a pot with 3 bulbs, 2 in flower

I kept them bone dry in the summer and the pots were placed in direct sun close to the green house window. No artificial heat. That seems to work pretty well.

Poul

[Gerdk]

Narcissus serotinus - a pot with 5 bulbs all with flower
Narcissus serotinus seed pod - I hope they are ripe in time for the seed exchange
Narcissus elegans - a pot with 3 bulbs, 2 in flower
I kept them bone dry in the summer and the pots were placed in direct sun close to the green house window. No artificial heat. That seems to work pretty well.
Poul

Lovely pics - well cultivated plants. Once again I admire the shape of your N. elegans!

Gerd

[Hans A.]

Perfect grown narcissisi Gerd, Poul and Arnold!

Not being narcissus specialist I am wondering about Pouls N. elegans - I would have thought it is a N. miniatus - it has no similarity to the N.elegans I grow.

Here also first appeared:
Narcissus x perezlarae and Narcissus miniatus

[pehe]

Thank you Hans!
Regarding my N. elegans, I am suspicious too. I had expected more flowers on the same stem, but I am no expert either. When the flower opens the corona is greenish and turns more orange as Blanchard's description of elegans. They were bought last year from a well renown supplier under the name elegans, but they make mistakes too. What is Gerd's opinion?

Poul

[Gerdk]

Hans: Fantastic Narcissus x perezlarae. Looks much brighter 'semi-wild' than here in the north!

Poul: The easiest way to separate them is to look at the leaves. N. elegans has flat leaves, which are glaucous and which appear before or with the flowers while those of serotinus are greener, filiform and were developed after the flower stem.

Gerd

[Rafa]

I am thinking in make a sketch with Gerd's comments and also my comments.This group of narcissi is easy to understand.

[annew]

Please do, Rafa. Your sketches say more than words alone.

[David Nicholson]

Please do, Rafa. Your sketches say more than words alone.

Please from me too Rafa.

[pehe]

Poul: The easiest way to separate them is to look at the leaves. N. elegans has flat leaves, which are glaucous and which appear before or with the flowers while those of serotinus are greener, filiform and were developed after the flower stem.

Gerd

Gerd, here are a detailed description:
One dark green leave, oval 2.5 X 1.5 mm, 15 cm long, same time as flower. Not rough to the touch.
Flower 32 mm, pedicel 13 mm, orange corona 2.5 mm diameter, 1.5 mm long. Tube light green, 15 mm. Yellow pollen. Stem 15 cm. I have only had one flower on each stem the last 2 years.

Poul

[Hans A.]

Thanks a lot Gerd!

Poul - the diameter of the leaf and the general small size of the plant let me think yours is not N. elegans, but please have a look on the picture of N. elegans I took today (sorry not in flower).

Second picture show first Narcissus x alleniae.

[Anthony Darby]

Do you get many seeds Hans?

[Gerdk]

Poul: Like Hans I tend to think your plant is miniatus. The presence of a leaf while flowering is rare but can occur. It seems the size of the leaf and the corona is a bit large. So this puzzles me a bit.
I add a pic of elegans (var. auranticoronatus) and miniatus for comparison.

I hope, Rafa will do a more precise identification.

Hans: Fantastic x alleniae!

Gerd

[Kees Green]

Lovely pics guys.
The last of my daffs are out now, from the shadey parts of the garden, but nice to have daffs from March to late October here in the deep south
The cicadas will be singing soon so my lack of bulbs will be quenched by the sound of summer and hopefully some trips up some mountains.
Oh and go the Welsh, AB's and Kiwis