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Jan,that is a real beauty, I'd love to try it. Maren if you ever find a source let me know!On a different tack, I've just repotted two ponerorchis graminifolia that I bought from T&M maybe three years ago.There were originally three but one didn't make it through the first season.They seem surprisingly easy to grow and they receive the same treatment as my pleiones. Grown in a perlite/bark/moss compost and dried off in the winter.They sailed through last years freezing December without a problem in a cold greenhouse and this year there must be around 10 small rhizome- type furry things to repot.How has anyone else got on with them?Anyone know a source of named/coloured forms?I remember Rareplants offering some a few years ago,Regards,David