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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2011, 11:19:26 AM »
I don't think Euonymus alatus 'Phellomanus' is a correct name. There is however Euonymus phellomanus. This species has corked bark and pink fruits.

See also:http://www.hkolster.nl/euonymus/

Strange that Euonymus alatus Compactus is so invasive in the US. Here in the Netherlands this form sets very few fruits/seeds.




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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2011, 12:42:38 PM »
The label of my plant says it will only grow to 1m. Looking at Mark McDs plant mine has to come out as soon as.

Olga seeds from my plant below. Taken a couple of minutes back
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2011, 03:15:12 PM »
After looking to your pictures, I think it is Euonymus planipes (wrong !). Not the typical bud in dark red.  :-[
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2011, 03:27:05 PM »
Olga seeds from my plant below. Taken a couple of minutes back
Look like E. alatus???
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2011, 03:47:36 PM »
The seeds look more like alatus to me, than E. planipes (= sachalinensis).

Here's a closeup photo of E. alatus 'Compactus' seed taken minutes ago.  
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I also grow E. sachalinensis, one of my very favorite "small" trees, this species includes E. planipes as a synonym.  The thick "fruits" or capsule segments on that species are acute; here's a link showing the fruiting strucures:
http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/potd/2007/09/euonymus_planipes_1.php

The Plant List on Euomymus sachaliensis synonymy, many synonyms including E. planipes.
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2803604

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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2011, 03:58:39 PM »

Normal genetic variation in fall color of Euonymus alatus can range from orange to red to pink.  Here in the midwest United States, the intensity is usually very vibrant, but can depend on several environmental factors.
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2011, 08:46:55 PM »
Can anyone suggest a name for a smallish seedling Euonymus I have which has PINK seeds. It comes from China but I have no other information about it. The leaves are quite long and very narrow.
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2011, 11:18:56 PM »
Can anyone suggest a name for a smallish seedling Euonymus I have which has PINK seeds. It comes from China but I have no other information about it. The leaves are quite long and very narrow.

Here's a PDF of Euonymus in Flora of China; 90 species.
http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china/PDF/PDF11/Euonymus.pdf
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2011, 11:48:19 PM »
What's the difference between my seeds and yours, Mark?
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2011, 06:51:09 AM »
Can anyone suggest a name for a smallish seedling Euonymus I have which has PINK seeds. It comes from China but I have no other information about it. The leaves are quite long and very narrow.

Here's a PDF of Euonymus in Flora of China; 90 species.
http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china/PDF/PDF11/Euonymus.pdf
You are very kind Mark:)

Lesley there are a lot of Euonymus in Chinese flora as you can see. It would be better to have images of whole plant, berries, flowers, leaves and bark for identifying your Euonymus.
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2011, 06:59:14 AM »
Mine is just a small seedling so far but I may be able to find a picture of the plant, taken in 2008 I think, It was shrubby in outline.
Lesley Cox - near Dunedin, lower east coast, South Island of New Zealand - Zone 9

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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2011, 07:04:44 AM »
What's the difference between my seeds and yours, Mark?
The seeds look more like alatus to me, than E. planipes (= sachalinensis).

Back to fall color. I grow a lot of E. alatus for sale. Every autumn plants grown in pots turn burning red. But the plant growing in the garden often turns only pink more intense than yours, Mark. And it changes it's color and lose leaves later than potted ones.
For better color Euonymuses need in poor soil and sunny place. The soil at my garden is loamy and very rich that's why the color is not very intense.
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2011, 07:36:27 AM »
Can anyone suggest a name for a smallish seedling Euonymus I have which has PINK seeds. It comes from China but I have no other information about it. The leaves are quite long and very narrow.

The only Euonymus I can think of is Euonymus cornutus var. quinquecornutus. When propagated from seed this is a very slow growing plant with a rather open habitus. I think this plant looks better when grafted on Euonymus europaeus (more branches and better habitus).

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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2011, 12:38:37 PM »
Another one with pink seeds is Euonumus nanus.  I'll see if I can find some photos... mine were sold as E. nanus 'Turkestanicus' (actually, it was garbled the other way around with the invalid combination E. turkistanicus 'Nana').  It is a unique species with narrow needle-like leaves, and dark red long-tubular flowers.
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2011, 12:45:30 PM »
I couldn't resist showing E. alatus 'Compactus' in its last hurrah a couple days ago, it rather suddenly turned brilliant. The first view is from my dining room window.

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Then almost as suddenly, most leaves dropped, leaving a colorful confettii.  Leaves are small enough that they can be left to compost naturally.

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