New Cornus

[mark smyth]

Three years ago I was given 3 cuttings from a new Cornus by Chris Sanders. I now cant remember the name but think it was something like Arnie's Orange. Is there such a plant?

Only one survived to year two. In its first year it did nothing other than produce a few years. Last year it grew a few very short stems. This year it has taken off

Here are some photos taken today

[Lesley Cox]

Well done Mark and Arnie too. What an incredible colour to light the dullest day. I hope this one finds its way to NZ at some stage. I think there are still a couple of nurserymen importing such things having jumped through all the hoops required by MAF and EPA.

[Garden Prince]

The correct name of this plant is Cornus sanguinea "Anny's Winter Orange" but it is also known as: Cornus sanguinea "Winter Beauty", Cornus sang. "Winter Flame", Cornus sang. "Magic Flame", Cornus sang. "Anny" and Cornus sang. "Anny's". So many names for one plant!

It is a Dutch selection made bij Andre Nijnatten from Zundert, The Netherlands in the 1980's.

[mark smyth]

wow, why so many names?

[Lesley Cox]

The unpleasant words "identity theft' were mentioned on another thread a few minutes ago.

[annew]

I got it as Midwinter Fire! It's quite a spreader by suckers once it gets going...

[mark smyth]

Not what I want Anne in my raised bed.

How low can I cut it back in the spring? I has one main stem which branches out around 6 inches above soil level

[Diane Clement]

I got it as Midwinter Fire! It's quite a spreader by suckers once it gets going...  

I first saw this plant at Wisley a few years ago, I thought it was wonderful, looked like a firework going off.  So I bought one.  

In a season it completely filled a whole bed with its suckers ... it is sadly a dreadful pest .... I had to get rid of it.  Caveat emptor    

Oh, just found the picture taken at Wisley, January 2005.  It would be interesting to know whether it has filled the bed there?

[mark smyth]

it looks great

[annew]

Not what I want Anne in my raised bed.

How low can I cut it back in the spring? I has one main stem which branches out around 6 inches above soil level

around 6 inches above soil level!

[Lesley Cox]

Not what I want Anne in my raised bed.

How low can I cut it back in the spring? I has one main stem which branches out around 6 inches above soil level

around 6 inches above soil level!

I'd cut it immediately ABOVE the 6" branch which should encourage the branches but if you cut it below the branch you will get masses more branches from below the soil. You may do anyway, judging from the other posts. I'd move to a bigger garden if I were you. On the other hand it would do well here will plenty of space to fill. Last autumn I bought a plant of Rhus typhina with outstanding colour and in the knowledge that it suckers dreadfully. Just what I wanted, only to find when it arrived that it had been grafted high onto another species and won't sucker at all. Still magnificent in the autumn but not what I expected.

[John85]

cornus sanguinea ,cornus alba siberica: how to see the difference?

[Maggi Young]

cornus sanguinea ,cornus alba siberica: how to see the difference?

That's a good question, John........ I'm waiting for the answer, too 

[Diane Clement]

cornus sanguinea ,cornus alba siberica: how to see the difference?

That's a good question, John........ I'm waiting for the answer, too 

Cornus alba stays well behaved - it doesn't sucker and spread to the extent that C sanguinea does.  I had to remove C sanguinea and would never again plant it in a garden bed, I do also have C alba but it is no trouble and stays confined to base. 

[Maggi Young]

Thanks, Diane.