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John85

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Systemic acquired resistance
« on: December 04, 2011, 09:50:19 AM »
Has somebody tried to induce SAR by treating the plants with salicilic acid (aspirin)?
What were the results please?

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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 10:04:31 AM »
Has somebody tried to induce SAR by treating the plants with salicilic acid (aspirin)?
What were the results please?
Explain please.
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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2011, 02:11:02 PM »
It is possible to boost a plant own defense mechanisms by spraying it with a very diluted solution of aspirin.Trials have been done for commercial important crops and by forestry research stations.
As it is cheap and easy i wonder if amateur gardeners have tried it too.

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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 07:38:37 PM »
An aspirin crushed in a vase of water is an accepted way to prolong the vase life of cut flowers, or some anyway.
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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 08:45:11 PM »
Aspirin is a effect drug in interfering with the body's inflammatory process thereby reducing pain and swelling.

Not sure how it would work on plants.
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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 11:23:52 PM »
Arnold,

Wikipedia's brief article on SAR says that it is activated by an accumulation of endogenous salycylic acid.
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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2011, 01:20:24 AM »
Rob:

I have read that plants mount a response to stress just as mammals and most other forms of life do.

It would make some sense that the mechanisms are "evolutionary" similar.

Reading a bit about aspirin it was derived from the bark of a willow.  It seems the American Indians chewed the bark to relieve aches, pains fevers.
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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2011, 12:17:14 PM »
Also present in and can be produced from meadowsweet (filpendula ulmaria).

Down at the bottom of this page:

http://wildflowerfinder.org.uk/Flowers/M/Meadowsweet/Meadowsweet.htm

it says

"Aspirin, or Acetyl Salicylic Acid, is also found in plants, being a plant hormone (phytohormone) which not only helps the plant grow but also is involved in a pathway signalling the presence of plant pathogens and mediating the plant defence against the pathogens."

There's a bit more interesting stuff about plants' defence mechanisms and aspirin...

(declaration of interest, I know the person whose web site this is).



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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2011, 12:32:10 PM »
David, quite apart from the interesting aspirin connection, that is a nice website... thanks!
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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2011, 08:23:36 PM »
sorry to ask, what is SAR ?
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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2011, 08:55:59 PM »
Systemic acquired resistance
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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 10:15:02 PM »
This a very technical paper on plant immune systems:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v444/n7117/full/nature05286.html
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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2011, 11:55:47 PM »
you would use aspirin as a vaccine ?
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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 12:11:25 PM »
you would use aspirin as a vaccine ?

Millions of people take one every day as a prophylactic (preventive) medicine.

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Re: Systemic acquired resistance
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2011, 12:23:35 PM »
It is possible to boost a plant own defense mechanisms by spraying it with a very diluted solution of aspirin.Trials have been done for commercial important crops and by forestry research stations.
As it is cheap and easy i wonder if amateur gardeners have tried it too.
How 'very' diluted?
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