Winter Narcissus - to early 2012

[Gerry Webster]

Very nice indeed Arnold. Do you know anything about the origin of your N. calcicola? Perhaps my favourite narcissus.

[David Nicholson]

Both lovely Arnold but I'm not sure where the name came from for the cantabricus? Blanchard doesn't mention 'clusii' and neither does the RHS Botanical Classification List but both. Blanchard (grudgingly) and the RHS give petunioides varietal status. 

[Rafa]

Michael, I am almost sure your beatuiful clump is Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. validus, probably the biggest bulbocodium, although not so tall in the nature. I collected seeds several times of this species and it could be 70cm high to the capsules! trying to be more tall than the herbs. This subsp. has 3-4 rough and wide leaves per bulb with certain vegetative division capacity. It also smells like insecticide. Tatsuo, you are right it is very slender The bulbocodium I pictured is "junciform" in al its parts, without scent and two leves per bulb without vegetative division.

I will try t collect seeds to compare it in culture with the other species.

[Michael J Campbell]

Thanks Rafa, I will label it accordingly.

[Gerry Webster]

Both lovely Arnold but I'm not sure where the name came from for the cantabricus? Blanchard doesn't mention 'clusii' and neither does the RHS Botanical Classification List but both. Blanchard (grudgingly) and the RHS give petunioides varietal status. 

Kew monocot list - N. clusii is a synonym for N. cantabricus subsp. cantabricus. See also Blanchard p190.

[Rafa]

here 3 pictures.
N. cantabricus
N. x neocarpetanus nothovar. romanensis
N. bulbocodium

[Rafa]

As far as I know, var. petuioides is part of the normal variability of the species. In fact in every population you can find var. petunioides, var. subpetunioides, var. sub-sub petunioides... and so.
N. graellsii, has also a good range of corona angle. To me this is  not an important character in taxonomy, but maybe are interesting for horticultural purposes.
There are also other occasional character that also are normal like 2 flowers per scape http://www.biodiversidadvirtual.org/herbarium/Narcissus-bulbocodium-L-subsp-graellsii-Webb-KRicht-img8728.html
I have seen this forms in other strictly uniflower species.

[ArnoldT]

Narcissus bulbocodium from Morocco

[Rafa]

Another species from Morocco, N. jacquemoudii. Also N. x matritensis and an unknow subsp. or species to me, but the best bulbocodium I ever grow, with lemon scent

[ian mcenery]

Another species from Morocco, N. jacquemoudii. Also N. x matritensis and an unknow subsp. or species to me, but the best bulbocodium I ever grow, with lemon scent

Rafa love the x matritensis

Here are my cyclamineus just starting to flower

Although they are still seeding around I think they suffered because of our drought last year

[Rafa]

beautiful group in contrast with Cyclamen!

[art600]

I apologise for the poor photos, but I am hoping that someone can confirm the identity I have on my labels.

The greenhouse smells wonderful now that these narcissus have flowered 

9627/8 I believe to be N.fernandesii
9629    I believe to be N. cordubensis
9631/2  Another N. fernandesii

[Michael J Campbell]

Narcissus obesus x triand, from Anne Wright.
Narcissus minor Douglasbank

[ronm]

Lovely plants Art and Michael.
Are they grown outside all year round?

[Michael J Campbell]

My plants are grown in a cold frame and brought into the greenhouse at flowering time. Keeps the flowers from getting damaged and makes the photography easier.