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Author Topic: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012  (Read 60781 times)

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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #315 on: March 04, 2012, 03:49:43 PM »
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #316 on: March 05, 2012, 06:42:17 PM »
Over the years I've accumulated a number of Narcissus bulbocodium forms and the following are some from Brian Duncan's Lists. The labels are as Brian described them.

Narcissus bulbocodium var. citrinus (Landes Form) x large golden obesus type

N. bulbocodium ex 96/200. Apologies for the poor quality close up shot.

N. bulbocodium 02-143

Pressure on space is such that I shall probably cease to maintain these in separate pots next year.

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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #317 on: March 05, 2012, 06:45:15 PM »
One of my favourit little Daffs-Anne Wright's 'Jim Lad'

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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #318 on: March 05, 2012, 06:45:49 PM »
They're nice N.bulbocodiums though David. :) :). Did you ever try them in the garden?

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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #319 on: March 05, 2012, 06:55:40 PM »
No I haven't Ron. I did once try some bulbocodium conspicuus and they lasted one season before rotting away. To my eye many of the ones I have are really very similar and I wondered about putting them in a larger pot and watering them a little later than I normally do in the hope that I might get a pot-full worth sticking on the bench at the South West AGS Show.
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #320 on: March 05, 2012, 07:02:55 PM »
Both of the following came to me as asturiensis. The first is one raised from wild seed sown in 2007 and the second with a collection no. from a well known grower. It is difficult to show the difference in size - which is considerable- due to both being well rooted in the plunge. Also the flower form is quite different. Can anyone say if there is a lot of variation in the wild??
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #321 on: March 05, 2012, 08:38:04 PM »
Oh I certainly would have a go David, with such good material, ;D ;D. Its got to be worth a try ;)

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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #322 on: March 05, 2012, 08:38:39 PM »
Ian - my understanding, largely derived from Blanchard, is that there is a lot of variation & N. asturiensis overlaps with  N. minor (so-called) which, apparently, is only known as a garden plant.
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #323 on: March 06, 2012, 07:47:10 PM »
Ian - my understanding, largely derived from Blanchard, is that there is a lot of variation & N. asturiensis overlaps with  N. minor (so-called) which, apparently, is only known as a garden plant.

Thank you Gerry for that. It amazing that some species can vary so much.
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #324 on: March 06, 2012, 08:42:41 PM »
I also have lots of leaves this year and few flowers on my narcissus this year.
This one looks good - grown from AGS seed in 1992 as Narcissus graellsii but much bigger than other graellsiis I've seen.  It stayed as 3 bulbs for a long time but did split last year and I was able to pass on a few bulbs to Ian Y.
Narcissus jacetanus loking good in the frame
Roma Fiddes, near Aberdeen in north East Scotland.

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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #325 on: March 06, 2012, 09:24:32 PM »
Roma, I can now see how etiolated some of my stuff is. Compare my graellsii in Reply 261 with yours :(
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #326 on: March 06, 2012, 10:10:17 PM »
Ian - my understanding, largely derived from Blanchard, is that there is a lot of variation & N. asturiensis overlaps with  N. minor (so-called) which, apparently, is only known as a garden plant.

Thank you Gerry for that. It amazing that some species can very so much.
Ian - there are quite a number of previous posts on N. asturiensis. Try search, entering N. asturiensis & Rafa as the poster.
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #327 on: March 07, 2012, 01:17:05 PM »
Another N. bulbocodium form from Brian Duncan-N. bulbocodium SEL 2847

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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #328 on: March 07, 2012, 01:20:36 PM »
Narcissus moschatus and a USA raised one, Narcissus 'Wyandot'

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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #329 on: March 07, 2012, 05:25:37 PM »
The Narcissus moschatus is very nice  :)
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