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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #345 on: February 27, 2012, 12:31:02 PM »
And oh how they keep coming ,we now have a Mr Grumpy and Alien Face,whatever next, it will certainly mess the snowdrop scene up if all these so called Grumpy's get sold on and on and on,and all because they have seen it on the TV and News

I did have a chat with Joe Sharman a couple of years ago and suggested that some sort of regulation be placed on the naming of drops ,such as some kind of regulative commitee to look to see if a drop was worthy of naming,good idea or not I do not know ,but at least questions could be asked to the e bay sellers as to whether or not their snowdrop had been registered which maybe would put off some of the more dubious people out there

Anyone have any other thoughts?
« Last Edit: February 27, 2012, 12:35:46 PM by chasw »
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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #346 on: February 28, 2012, 01:25:17 AM »

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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #347 on: February 28, 2012, 06:53:46 AM »
Galanthus elwesii? I have sent a question: "It's not 'Hoverfly' unless you bought it as such. You CANNOT "find" a named snowdrop varieties in your garden. ALL NAMED SNOWDROPS COME FROM CLONES THAT HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED AND REGISTERED by a snowdrop grower. If you can't trace it back to the original named clone, regardless of how close it looks, it isn't that variety. It's a imitation worth about 50p. You can call it what you like, but not a named clonal variety. That's the equivalent of selling fake copies of a Picasso painting."
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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #348 on: February 28, 2012, 07:38:26 AM »
I wonder if we are getting a bit too caught up in the misdemeanors here, when it is the crimes we ought to worry about?

If somebody finds a snowdrop with some funny marking and offers it as such on eBay (e.g. "alien face snowdrop") I see nothing wrong with that.

And it doesn't take a lot of snowdrop knowledge to know that a snowdrop you find in your garden that vaguely resembles a named snowdrop is not that named snowdrop.  So "possibly hoverfly" is not possibly hoverfly and more fool anyone who buys it as such hoping to get hoverfly.

What we need to be on a guards for is people setting out to deceive, deliberately selling one snowdrop as another.  Don't sweat the small stuff. 
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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #349 on: February 28, 2012, 08:34:08 AM »
Galanthus elwesii? I have sent a question: "It's not 'Hoverfly' unless you bought it as such.

This is at least the third time she has been told, but as I said "...but someone will buy it."  Let them.  No real collector will fall for this, and it really is a case of buyer beware.  It doesn't seem as though anything else can be done.  As Alan says:
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So "possibly hoverfly" is not possibly hoverfly and more fool anyone who buys it as such hoping to get hoverfly.
It's those trying to make a quick buck pretending to sell the rarities that are the real worry.
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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #350 on: February 28, 2012, 08:40:28 AM »
ALL NAMED SNOWDROPS COME FROM CLONES THAT HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED AND REGISTERED by a snowdrop grower.
Although I agree with the sentiment, I didn't realise there is register of snowdrop varieties, as there is for narcissus. Is there one, and how does one register a plant with it?
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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #351 on: February 28, 2012, 09:17:06 AM »
Although I agree with the sentiment, I didn't realise there is register of snowdrop varieties, as there is for narcissus. Is there one, and how does one register a plant with it?

pm Gerard, he voluntered to help people last year.
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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #352 on: February 28, 2012, 09:22:39 AM »
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Hi,I appreciate your comments but I have to disagree, although I haven't personally bought 'Blonde Inge' myself my woodland was once owned by someone who had a passion for flowers, many different species were planted over the years. Over time labels were lost so I have no idea exactly what is what. I am clear in my ad that I'm not certain it is 'Blonde Inge' and have listed it as a yellow petal snowdrop but it definitely looks like the picture on the link I provided.You seem to have more knowledge of snowdrops than me, if you can you please identify it from my pictures I will happily revise my listing?Kind Regards- mrbmoon1
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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #353 on: February 28, 2012, 09:41:58 AM »
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Hi,I appreciate your comments but I have to disagree, although I haven't personally bought 'Blonde Inge' myself my woodland was once owned by someone who had a passion for flowers, many different species were planted over the years. Over time labels were lost so I have no idea exactly what is what. I am clear in my ad that I'm not certain it is 'Blonde Inge' and have listed it as a yellow petal snowdrop but it definitely looks like the picture on the link I provided.You seem to have more knowledge of snowdrops than me, if you can you please identify it from my pictures I will happily revise my listing?Kind Regards- mrbmoon1
Mark at the end of the day if they can put a name to it they are quids in,even loosely to look like a known  drop,but well done for getting on to him.
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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #354 on: February 28, 2012, 12:44:10 PM »
Although I agree with the sentiment, I didn't realise there is register of snowdrop varieties, as there is for narcissus. Is there one, and how does one register a plant with it?

pm Gerard, he voluntered to help people last year.

It might be useful if Gerard posted a link again to the register so we can see how it's coming on with regard to the registration of existing cultivars.
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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #355 on: February 28, 2012, 12:54:23 PM »
Anne, here's the link to a thread from last year where the galanthus registration authority issue was discussed at some length.

http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6885.60
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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #356 on: February 28, 2012, 01:11:01 PM »
Gerard gave the  Galanthus registrar details again earlier this month:

http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8571.msg230084#msg230084

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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #357 on: February 28, 2012, 01:24:41 PM »
Thanks Maggi. I meant a link to the actual register so we can see how it's coming on.
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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #358 on: February 28, 2012, 06:33:51 PM »
I just started looking into Galanthus, I really like them, they're cute to say the least but WHY in the world are there so many named varieties?   How can you possibly keep track of all that and know what you're growing is correct if you can find other snowdrops that could pass for the other?

I really like them and I think I'm going to start growing them but WOW is this all confusing!? :)  This e-bay thread has deterred me from using auction sites, well at least until I know what I'm doing!



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Re: Galanthus - Ebay digression 2012
« Reply #359 on: February 28, 2012, 11:51:18 PM »
WHY in the world are there so many named varieties?   

Why are there so many named daffodils! They are all yellow LOL ;D
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