Moan, Moan, Moan - 2012

[Lesley Cox]

In at least one other thread, much has been said about the AGS website and the AGS in general and the frustrations many members feel with them. I thought I should have a look and see what was being said in the Online Discussion section as I haven't been there for a couple of years - doesn't that say it all?

I read a couple of threads and found that each seemed to die in a black hole after the initial contibution. Discussion? not really. Then I read from a member also one of us here, that nothing had been posted about the most recent AGS show and Cliff B quoted from the Simon and Garfunkel song "The Sound of Silence" very appropriately.

Then I realized that what was being said was actually from April 2009, so not a recent show after all, but I continued to read all the way down the contibutions and Jim McGregor seemed willing to have improvements to the area made, and was willing to listen to what the contibutors were saying. Great, I thought. Then there was a good deal about the time it took to do the typing and how the server might think one had gone away and log one out in the middle of a contribution. Posts should be made in various parts, not as a single entity. What? I didn't really understand all that, it seemed so bizarre.

Anyway, I decided to add my bit and how I thought the discussion area could be improved and how it compared with the SRGC Form and so on. Even, being a Kiwi, included a rugby analogy about how professionalism had spoiled the game compared to the days when the society was run by volunteers.

I then pressed "Contribute" and the whole thing vanished and hasn't been seen since. It took about 35 mins to write the whole thing and make a few corrections - no "modify" button there, so no doubt it was the server letting me know I had been too tardy.

I'm not going there again. The experience seems to exemplify the whole AGS experience in recent times.

[David Nicholson]

Agreed Lesley, I've given up on it and don't post anymore.

[Diane Clement]

Anyway, I decided to add my bit and how I thought the discussion area could be improved and how it compared with the SRGC Form and so on. Even, being a Kiwi, included a rugby analogy about how professionalism had spoiled the game compared to the days when the society was run by volunteers.

I don't really want to enter into this as I come to this forum for fun and enjoyment and not arguments  
However, I would like to just put one thing straight.  The AGS is run by volunteers, Ray Drew is not paid, nor is Jim McGregor, nor am I, nor are any of the other officers and committee members - who  are the people who decide the policies of the society.          

[angie]

I think we are really spoiled on this forum and sometimes expect the same on other sites. I am a member of other forums ( Koi Forums ) and I find that they don't bother with me much. Maybe because I am a novice and to them and I probably ask the most daft questions. Oh well I am happy here and I remember my first post on the forum, it was answered in 2 minutes of me posting it. Just shows that you bunch are all functioning well and just a happy to help, Great bunch aren't you 

Angie 

[Tim Ingram]

I feel like a party pooper all round because I probably started a lot of this with the best of intentions. I still have those.

[Maggi Young]

Tim, I do not think that anyone can doubt the sincerity and good intentions of your attempts to promote discussion.

[fredg]

Then there was a good deal about the time it took to do the typing and how the server might think one had gone away and log one out in the middle of a contribution. Posts should be made in various parts, not as a single entity. What? I didn't really understand all that, it seemed so bizarre.

Anyway, I decided to add my bit and how I thought the discussion area could be improved and how it compared with the SRGC Form and so on. Even, being a Kiwi, included a rugby analogy about how professionalism had spoiled the game compared to the days when the society was run by volunteers.

I then pressed "Contribute" and the whole thing vanished and hasn't been seen since. It took about 35 mins to write the whole thing and make a few corrections - no "modify" button there, so no doubt it was the server letting me know I had been too tardy.

I remember the old days on dial-up ( a dark and distant 12 years ago?  ) when we used to type to notepad offline then copy/paste when we connected.

Ah! Memories

[Lesley Cox]

Thank you Diane, your point is taken, and I did realize that people such as yourself and Ray were volunteers. I was getting a little carried away about Pershore staff but of course I should have realized that policy and such are set by committee/council and it's the paid staff - the few there are - who carry out those policies.

[Michael J Campbell]

Just back from walking the dog and this is what I discovered on the path. Some imbecile  dumped a bag of domestic rubbish beside the litter bin which obviously contained potato skins some of which had spilled unto the road.
Look at what was printed on the bag.

[angie]

Michael that's so annoying. Love the bag.
Today I came home from a lovely day out. I was just thinking to myself how nice the countryside was looking and everything was so nice and green at this time of year. Then five minutes from my house someone has dumped a mattress and unit in the lay by . It makes me so mad, I just can't understand it, if they have went to the effort of putting it their vehicle why not just take it to the council dump. It's only five minutes from me.

Some people have no respect for others.

Angie 

[Anthony Darby]

The last of the automata didn't die when the dinosaurs became extinct Angie. There is a large section of society where thought processes that don't affect their way of life don't exist. Some of these morons actually think that if you don't drop litter council employees won't have a job - it's what they're paid for!

[Lesley Cox]

if they have went to the effort of putting it their vehicle why not just take it to the council dump. It's only five minutes from me.


Angie 

Probably because there may be a cost (fee) in taking rubbish to the dump? We have to pay big fees here to take stuff to the council dump and as a result much stuff is thrown off the back of trucks, on the roadside, usually down a bank where it's harder to retrieve. When bags are dumped illegally, council workers go through them now to find an envelope with an address, then prosecute when they can.

[Anthony Darby]

No cost in Scotland. We used the dump regularly for everything from electrical and white goods to mattresses. Here in Auckland they have a week when you can put your inorganic rubbish outside your house and if someone in a white van doesn't take it away the council do. It's amazing. Huge mountains of stuff that usually looks like it's been in the garage for years. I got some plant pots one day. Next door put out some lovely ceramic ones, but before I'd thought about it they'd gone!

[Otto Fauser]

Anthony and Lesley , we here in Melbourne have the same once a year free 'hard Rubbish' collection by our local council ., which includes white goods , fridges , mattresses etc. As I usually have little accumulated rubbish , neighbours and or strangers dump their lots during the night on my nature strip ,which I think is rather mean .

[Paul T]

Otto,

I'm trying to think where the heck you have a nature strip they could dump on?    We do have occasional waste things like that here in Canberra as well, but it is usually as quietly advertised as possible so that the government doesn't have to pick up as much.  Usually I find out about it after the fact, unfortunately.