Allium 2012

[Stephenb]

Fantastic pictures and Mark's comment about ellisii is thought provoking!

[Janis Ruksans]

Shortly ago returned from Kazahstan. Some Alliums from just Chinese border at west end (Shogansay, alt. 2750 m). May be Mark know the name of yellow Allium?
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

Allium tulipifolium - Kein Kerish, Kazahstan. alt. 515 m
Janis

[TheOnionMan]

Janis, thanks for showing these Allium species from Kazakhstan, good to see photos of them in the wild and with habitat.  From Panayoti Kelaidis' seed collecting trip to Kazakhstan in 2010, I received 23 Allium accessions, of which I had germination on 20 of them, already one species showing buds right now.  Of those I received, I have high hope for good results with A. atrosanguineum, the closely allied yellow A. fedtschenkoanum.  I'm puzzled by the yellow species you show (pure delight to the eyes), at first glance I thought it might be A. chysanthum, or possibly A. fedtschenkoanum, but with flat channeled leaves, it doesn't fit the either species.  I'll work on researching that one.

The fields of Allium tulipifolium (apparently also spelled tulipaefolium) look impressive; this has so often been a misapplied name for plants in cultivation, which have never been true, so its great to see the real thing. Part of the problem is that the name tulipifolium has been confused with A. decipiens, which is a different valid species. I have seed of tulipifolium from of the PK Kazakhstan collection, from the same location in Kiin Kerish.  The habitat photos give good indication about how it needs to be grown. 

If you have more photos of Alliums from Kazakhstan, please show us!

[wmel]

something I don't see every day

[wmel]

This allium is sold by a lot of allium specialists as allium carolinianum (see forum last year too), also by me?!, Bus as I know now it isn't allium carolinianum. Does someone know what this is??

Bulbs are white and maximum size is about zift 9, grows very easy and healty

[wmel]

The fields of Allium tulipifolium (apparently also spelled tulipaefolium) look impressive; this has so often been a misapplied name for plants in cultivation, which have never been true, so its great to see the real thing. Part of the problem is that the name tulipifolium has been confused with A. decipiens, which is a different valid species. I have seed of tulipifolium from of the PK Kazakhstan collection, from the same location in Kiin Kerish.  The habitat photos give good indication about how it needs to be grown. 

I post 4 photo's of an allium I have bought as allium decipiens........  Could this be allium tulipaefolium??
(last year you said it wasn't decipiens)

[wmel]

And some more photo's from today

allium litvinovii
allium howelii var. clokeyi
allium pallasii
allium trautveteranum
allium bolanderi mirabile
allium nevskianum x karataviense

[wmel]

Shortly ago returned from Kazahstan. Some Alliums from just Chinese border at west end (Shogansay, alt. 2750 m). May be Mark know the name of yellow Allium?
Janis

Sorry for asking, but isn't allium atropurpureum something else??
I would think your photo is allium atrosanguineum??

http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/46416.html

[Lvandelft]

Wietse, your field looks much better when not raining cats and dogs 

[Tom Waters]

Allium caeruleum

[TheOnionMan]

Sorry for asking, but isn't allium atropurpureum something else??
I would think your photo is allium atrosanguineum??

http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/46416.html

Yes, of course.  In my article "For the Love of Onions" in the NARGS Rock Garden Quarterly - Summer 2011, I describe Allium atrosanguineum and published with permission from Kurt Vickery a photo of that species in a meadow in Kazakhstan.  I guess we're all mixing our "atros"   I hope one day to bring my seedlings to maturity and show the plant in cultivation. 

Wietse, your A. atropurpureum is flowering the same time as mine, he's a photo taken in waning light this evening, not looking too bad after 5" (12.5 cm) of rain yesterday.



Also looking good now is Allium oreophilum 'Torch', also I'm afraid, taken in dim light which skews the color somewhat.  This year I had a couple seedlings bloom, 4-5 years from seed.

[John85]

My allium fistulosum never flowers.As it is nearly a vegetable is it possible that a sterile clone has be selected as for instance for sorrel.Has anyone heard of this?
I have already tried a potash feed:it didn't work.

[wmel]

My allium fistulosum never flowers.As it is nearly a vegetable is it possible that a sterile clone has be selected as for instance for sorrel.Has anyone heard of this?
I have already tried a potash feed:it didn't work.

I have never seen a allium fistulosum that didn't flower (from seed in the second year already)
Are you sure it is allium fistulosum??, Do you have a photo of your plants??

[John85]

Quite sure.There are two forms for sale at the local markets:the red one and the white one.Referring to the colour of the outer skin of the bulb.I read that there is also a var. bulbiferum but I have never seen that one for sale here.
Sorry no picture.