Allium 2012

[Stephenb]

Thanks Mark! What's the main diagnostic separating ledebourianum and schoenoprasum?

[TheOnionMan]

Thanks Mark! What's the main diagnostic separating ledebourianum and schoenoprasum?

The differences are slight, largely separated by length of stamen filaments:

Flora of China, drawing of Allium schoenoprasum & ledebourianum
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=60290&flora_id=2

Allium schoenoprasum - filaments 1/3--1/2(--2/3) as long as perianth segments

Allium maximowiczii    - filaments slightly shorter than to equaling perianth segments

Allium ledebourianum  - filaments longer than perianth segments

[Stephenb]

I received this as Allium karelinii (SRGC seed from 2007).

From FOC: Leaves, leaf sheaths, and scape scabrous-denticulate along angles. Fl. Aug.
Meadows, along streams; 2000--2500 m. Xinjiang (Altay Shan, Tarbagatay Shan, Tian Shan) [Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Russia].

It  doesn't feel obviously rough. Suggestions?

[wmel]

There is not much interest in the allium forum the last weeks......
Does nobody have some nice photo's of special alliums, or some beautiful photo's of more normal alliums...

I received this as Allium karelinii (SRGC seed from 2007).

From FOC: Leaves, leaf sheaths, and scape scabrous-denticulate along angles. Fl. Aug.
Meadows, along streams; 2000--2500 m. Xinjiang (Altay Shan, Tarbagatay Shan, Tian Shan) [Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Russia].

It  doesn't feel obviously rough. Suggestions?

For as far as I can find, it looks correct to me, but I don't know allium karelinii. To me it looks like a kind of allium schoenoprasum??

http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/118764.html

A photo of our allium "garden" at this moment

[Magnar]

Too many unnamed Alliums in my garden. Here is one of them, about 45 cm tall. Would anyone please suggest a name for it. Thanks.

[wmel]

Too many unnamed Alliums in my garden. Here is one of them, about 45 cm tall. Would anyone please suggest a name for it. Thanks.

It looks like allium amphibolum.
Is it flowering sometimes 2 times a year, and is it making very much massive seeds??

[Lvandelft]

This Allium was shown this week at the Flowershow in Lisse (see also
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=1315.msg252234#msg252234
and it was grown from seed named Allium flavum var. minus.
Interesting is the strange habit, so possibly it might have another name?
Anybody seen this strange form before??

[Thomas Huber]

Luit, I have observed the same habit this year on A. obliquum in my garden. Could this be caused by strange weather and temperatures in spring?

I also have two unnamed Alliums flowering in my garden today. The bigger one looks like A. amphibolum like shown from Wietse above, the second is smaller. I don't know where I got them from, but probably both were a souvenir from Greece. Can anybody give an exact ID?
Thanks in advance.

[David Nicholson]

Hi Thomas, long time no read

[wmel]

This Allium was shown this week at the Flowershow in Lisse (see also
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=1315.msg252234#msg252234
and it was grown from seed named Allium flavum var. minus.
Interesting is the strange habit, so possibly it might have another name?
Anybody seen this strange form before??

Your foto is showing allium flavum var nanum, and it shows the plant as it normaly is.

[wmel]

Luit, I have observed the same habit this year on A. obliquum in my garden. Could this be caused by strange weather and temperatures in spring?

I also have two unnamed Alliums flowering in my garden today. The bigger one looks like A. amphibolum like shown from Wietse above, the second is smaller. I don't know where I got them from, but probably both were a souvenir from Greece. Can anybody give an exact ID?
Thanks in advance.

The first (pink) allium looks like some kind of allium nutans, or a seedling from this allium, The second looks like allium saxatille

[Thomas Huber]

Thanks Wietse for your ID - finally I have names for these wonderful plants 

Hi David. Yes, it's been a long time since I was here, wasn't sure if anybody will still know me 

[Maggi Young]

Thanks Wietse for your ID - finally I have names for these wonderful plants 

Hi David. Yes, it's been a long time since I was here, wasn't sure if anybody will still know me 

 Oh, Hubi, how could we forget you? 

[TheOnionMan]

Luit, I have observed the same habit this year on A. obliquum in my garden. Could this be caused by strange weather and temperatures in spring?

I also have two unnamed Alliums flowering in my garden today. The bigger one looks like A. amphibolum like shown from Wietse above, the second is smaller. I don't know where I got them from, but probably both were a souvenir from Greece. Can anybody give an exact ID?
Thanks in advance.

Thomas, it looks like the yellowish one has flat leaves, which led to my immediate impression it is Allium ericetorum.  Some photos will show white flowers tinged pinkish, but most often this species has pale yellow flowers in tight heads.  Mine is in flower now.

Allium saxatile has nearly rounded or terete leaves, these bloom at the same time as ericetorum (now); I have several forms in flower now.  There are yellowish forms of A. saxatile (aka synonym A. marschallianum), although more commonly the variable saxatile has blooms of white to pink.

By the way, did you make the trip in search of Allium narcissiflorum?

[Magnar]

It looks like allium amphibolum.
Is it flowering sometimes 2 times a year, and is it making very much massive seeds??

I don't think it can be A. amphibolum. From what I see of pics on the net, the leaves don't seem to fit.