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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #150 on: September 03, 2012, 02:21:16 AM »
Peter, your Allium virgunculae looks suspiciously like Allium daghestanicum to me rather than A. virgunculae; can you show us a whole plant shot to see the foliage characteristics.  Here's a link that shows A. daghestanicum.
http://nargs.org/smf/index.php?topic=964.msg19379#msg19379

Your photo of the lovely Allium beesianum reminds me that the form I received from a correspondant in France looks very much like your plant, the interesting feature is that it would produce a few innocuous miniscule bulbils in the flower head that would start sprouting, and these tiny sprouts could be plucked off and planted to start new plants. Your plant shows these sprouts.

Janis, love both the alliums you show, that is a rather special deep color for of A. cristophii you show.  I was able to grow and flower the Californian Allium sanbornii for a few years, but it seems a challenge in the New England climate, and has become just a memory.
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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #151 on: September 06, 2012, 09:19:22 AM »
Allium komarovianum flowering for the first time for me.

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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #152 on: September 06, 2012, 07:56:41 PM »
It looks lovely Poul
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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #153 on: September 07, 2012, 02:01:26 PM »
Allium komarovianum flowering for the first time for me.

Poul

The name komarovianum is a synonym for Allium sacculiferum, a species very close to Allium thunbergii.  I suspect your plant may actually be an Allium senescens form or hybrid that often goes around under the name of "komarovianum". What is the foliage like as it relates to the stem, on the true A. sacculiferum (aka, synonym A. komarovianum), the foliage sheaths the stem 1/4 to 1/2 the length of the stem, whereas in senescens (and its hybrids with species like nutans, angulosum, etc) the foliage is mostly basal and the stems are naked for the most part.

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=240001053
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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #154 on: September 10, 2012, 12:26:29 PM »
Mark, thank you for the name correction. The pic shows you were right. I am no expert in alliums, I have only few a species, mostly autumn flowering.

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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #155 on: September 16, 2012, 11:27:58 AM »
Two unnamed Alliums.

As I have said before, I have lost the names of too many Alliums in my garden. Hopefully someone here can help me with a name for these two.

No 1. about 20 cm tall, flowering in August here in North Norway

No 2. Abour 50 cm tall. The stem has very charactreistsic sharp edges. Flowering in August.

Thanks in advance


 
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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #156 on: September 17, 2012, 09:17:59 AM »
Two unnamed Alliums.

As I have said before, I have lost the names of too many Alliums in my garden. Hopefully someone here can help me with a name for these two.

No 1. about 20 cm tall, flowering in August here in North Norway

No 2. Abour 50 cm tall. The stem has very charactreistsic sharp edges. Flowering in August.

Thanks in advance

Magnar, No 2 looks like Allium wallichii to me.

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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #157 on: September 17, 2012, 09:22:15 AM »
Allium callimischon haemosticum in my green house today. Close up it is one of the prettiest autumn flowering alliums.

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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #158 on: September 17, 2012, 10:37:06 AM »
Magnar, No 2 looks like Allium wallichii to me.

Poul

Mange takk, Poul, ser ut som du har helt rett  :). Jeg hadde den i min såliste fra 2005

Thanks a lot , Poul, seems you are right  :) I had in in my sowing list for 2005

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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #159 on: September 17, 2012, 10:38:04 AM »
Allium callimischon haemosticum in my green house today. Close up it is one of the prettiest autumn flowering alliums.

Poul

Lovely plant, I guess it's not hardy in the open garden up here

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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #160 on: September 18, 2012, 02:14:52 AM »
Magnar, I agree with Poul, your second Allium looks like a very fine form of Allium wallichii.  The first species, with few-flowered heads of what looks like Allium cyaneum with exserted stamens, I feel fairly confident is Allium henryi, a species from China that I grow.  It is a distinctive species, with blue flowers that look like cyaneum with exserted stamens, but much fewer-flowered than cyaneum. Unlike A. cyaneum, Allium henryi has flat leaves, which can be seen in your plant.

Poul, your Allium callimischon haemosticum ssp. haemostictum is surely a welcome and lovely autumn blooming miniature.  I've not grown it, but the other form, Allium callimischon ssp. callimischon is very hardy here, one would hope that the nice red-spotted form would be hardy too, but perhaps not.
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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #161 on: September 18, 2012, 10:19:27 PM »
Thanks, Mark, for another name. Always good to be able to put in a labe beside the plants.

Here some Alliums from eralier this summer. All with names, and correct ones I hope.

Allium crenulatum
Allium heldereichii
Allium paradoxum var normale
Allium validum
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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #162 on: September 19, 2012, 12:12:05 PM »
I received this one as Allium kermesinum a few years ago and asked in 2009 if anyone could confirm its identity, but this was before the real Allium guys joined us and I didn't get an answer.   Appreciate if someone could give their opinion:

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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #163 on: September 20, 2012, 11:14:26 AM »
I showed some pictures in 2010 of a large Allium seen in the UK and collected from an Indian market. See the following link:
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5766.msg167762#msg167762

It was tentatively identified as Allium hookeri by Mark and Dr. Reinhard Fritsch at Gaterseleben.

I now have a plant which I will try to overwinter for the first time. This is what the roots look like. I only have the one plant and am a bit concerned of its hardiness. Is it possible to propagate from these roots?
 
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Re: Allium 2012
« Reply #164 on: September 20, 2012, 12:01:28 PM »
Any suggestions for this one which is emerging very slowly now (in the cool weather)?
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