Cyclamen 2012

[mark smyth]

I have a new addition  and it's Cyclamen. I bought some at the Gala.

Hans how come persicum dies with me but you have snow on yours?

[YT]

Thank you, all I've pollinated that flower yet

Here is C. coum, marbled leaf type. I found this plant at a garden centre several years ago.

[johnw]

We are just going through our Cyclamen hederifoliums. We have quite a few from various sources labelled ex Bowles' hybrid and yet can find no reference to a Bowles' hybrid. I have always assumed it should be ex Bowles' Apollo. Is this correct?

johnw

[annew]

That is a remarkable leaf, YT, I've never seen anything like it.

[YT]

Thanks, Anne Is this plant relatively rare It's very slow grower, it put only one flower last season but I can see several flower buds now

[Gerry Webster]

That is a remarkable leaf, YT, I've never seen anything like it.

Neither have I. Sorry Tetsuo, but I can't help wondering whether it is virused?  One of the cyclamen specialists should comment.

[jshields]

That is a remarkable leaf, YT, I've never seen anything like it.

Neither have I. Sorry Tetsuo, but I can't help wondering whether it is virused?  One of the cyclamen specialists should comment.

I'm not expert on Cyclamen, but my first thought when I saw that leaf was "virused."  I hope it isn't.

Jim

[YT]

Gerry and Jim, well... it looks a kind of variegation for me. When I spotted this plant at a garden centre several years ago, it was only 1 pot in some ten C. coum pots. So I thought this leaf patteren must be rare, but next year I found the exactly same variegation plants at a Japanese nursery's web-shop. They say that the original plant of this variegated C. coum was found from seedlings at their nursery and can be propagated by seeds.

[jshields]

Most viruses are not transmitted by seed, and it really is a very pretty leaf (if not caused by virus!)  So let's hope this is variegation.

I've lots too many bulbs to viruses over the years; maybe I'm a bit paranoid.

Jim

[WimB]

Tatsuo, I thought that it was virused too...but there's no way of knowing for sure unless you send a leaf for research to a lab.

And some viruses can be transmitted by seeds (not a lot, but there are some).

[Shadylanejewel]

Definitely no expert either, but virus was my first thought too.    I had the same reaction to Hosta 'Leopard Frog'.  http://www.hostalibrary.org/l/leopardfrog.html  

Thankfully, cyclamen aren't mass propagated by cutting them up (which is how Hosta Virus X was spread so quickly), so if it is a virus it may not be easily transmitted to other cyclamen.

Hosta Virus X - http://www.hostalibrary.org/firstlook/HVX.htm

[YT]

Jim, thank you for your opinion. I'm also a paranoid for viruses for daffodiles, irises, crocuses and lilies etc...

Wim, I think it's the best way but not so easy reserching such minor crop at the pyto-lab at my country (both procedure and cost)

julie, the symptoms on hostas you mentioned seems different to my plant, but thanks anyway

So, I'll keep my eyes on this variegation plant and enjoy by myself  

[ronm]

Will you be trying it from seed YT? If it comes true then % chance of being virus drops considerably, but as Wim says, doesn't (unfortunately) go away completely. . I can see what attracted you to it in the first place.

[WimB]

Wim, I think it's the best way but not so easy reserching such minor crop at the pyto-lab at my country (both procedure and cost)

It's very easy to test a plant over here, but the price is very steep indeed, I think it was 65 euro for one sample the last time I checked. And that is for an ELISA test, it only says if the plant is virused or not, it does not determine which kind of virus it is.

[Jo]

Thank you, all I've pollinated that flower yet

Here is C. coum, marbled leaf type. I found this plant at a garden centre several years ago.

Chatting on the Med. Gdn. Soc. forum the feeling seems to be that this is may not be a virus and may well come true from seed.  Which might be fun