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I've just heard that a new crocus discovered in Turkey (one of 3) has been named for our good friend Otto!
Crocus fauseri has just been described "inside segments white without markings,outside of outer segments are mostly finely veined greyish-blue, rarely speckled."
Congratulations, Otto!
Who'll be first on the Forum to grow it or show a pic? ;D
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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2012, 10:20:45 AM »
I've just heard that a new crocus discovered in Turkey (one of 3) has been named for our good friend Otto!
Crocus fauseri has just been described "inside segments white without markings,outside of outer segments are mostly finely veined greyish-blue, rarely speckled."
Congratulations, Otto!
Who'll be first on the Forum to grow it or show a pic? ;D
cheers
fermi

Where yoy read about this and where it and other two were published?
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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2012, 10:43:14 AM »
I've just heard that a new crocus discovered in Turkey (one of 3) has been named for our good friend Otto!
Crocus fauseri has just been described "inside segments white without markings,outside of outer segments are mostly finely veined greyish-blue, rarely speckled."
Congratulations, Otto!
Who'll be first on the Forum to grow it or show a pic? ;D
cheers
fermi

Where yoy read about this and where it and other two were published?


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We are really delighted that Otto has been honoured in this way.
This Crocus fauseri and two others have been published ( in Austria, I think) by Eric Pasche.
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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2012, 08:33:30 AM »
New crocus trio is really impressive. Nicest by pictures is Crocus fauseri - very good.

But I was mostly impressed by C. lydius - only 2-3 leaves with up to 6 ribs in each side of the grooves on leaf underneath. Seem it is highest number.

For the third - Crocus beydaglarensis - information is although complete but without careful reading and comparing with others at present I don't know how to include this species in key.

Nice that Erich et al. stopped rising of subspecies numbers. I think that many subsp. soon will be returned to species status. I started with this in my book in some funny way - explaining that writing trinominals (Crocus biflorus subsp. melantherus) takes too much place on label and on computer file, but really in my heart I felt that most of those subsp. must be returned back or replaced to species level. Last summer Erich & Co did it with Crocus roseoviolaceus and didn't placed minutus as subsp. of danfordiae.

Another feature to which Erich gave attention is characters of tooth on edge of basal rings. I always thought that it is important and quite constant inside species, although Brian Mathew disclaimed this. I saw this on Crocus tauricus, very special has C. nubigenus (similar in new C. lydius), very similar are tooth on all Eastern forms of biflorus group.

I hope that soon will be published phylogenetic research on crocuses maid in Gatersleben institute. It will be very interesting to compare it with Pettersen's et all. research results.
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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2012, 06:08:04 PM »
New crocus trio is really impressive. Nicest by pictures is Crocus fauseri - very good.

I can't find any pics, where are they please?
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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2012, 06:42:57 PM »
Pictures you can find in journal STAPFIA, but I don't know its internet link.
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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2012, 06:56:58 PM »
Ah, I mis-understood, I thought they had been posted on the Forum. Thank you Janis.
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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2012, 02:17:25 AM »
  Janis thanks for article trio. Yes it seem easyier like this with only one name but where I have to place the fauseri pot! near to flavus!
« Last Edit: January 09, 2012, 09:30:44 PM by ibrahim »

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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2012, 03:22:58 AM »
  Here is my C. fauseri photo!  :) from last year!
It is not necessary to keep it any more as a secret :(
The other part of picture I will post tomorrow when I will resize!

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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2012, 04:30:53 AM »
Looks very pretty. 8)
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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2012, 06:39:46 AM »
 Janis thanks for article trio. Yes it seem easier like this with only one name but where I have to place the faussieri pot! near to flavus!
Don't understand your entry, Ibrahim. Of course any one have own principles to place collection pots. Are you placing them in alphabetical order by names?
Mine are placed by
The first - by blooming season - all autumn bloomers and all spring bloomers on separate beds and further by:
The second - growing conditions - starting from those which need wet soil all the year round and during summer must be placed outside (near doors - less walking bringing them out, closer to waterpipe, too)) and ending with those which need hot and dry summer (at farest end from main doors of greenhouse)
The third - botanical affinities - so flavus and antalyensis are side by side and the same are with those with annulate corms - biflorus group. All three new crocuses belongs to this group, regardless - are they regarded as separate species or as subspecies of biflorus. Of course - not all annulate crocuses are together. Priority belongs to growing conditions and in all main groups are sections with annulate crocuses.
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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2012, 06:40:46 AM »
  Here is my C. fauseri photo!  :) from last year!
It is not necessary to keep it any more as a secret :(
The other part of picture I will post tomorrow when I will resize!

Very good, Ibrahim. On STAPHIA pictures didn't look so excellent.
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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2012, 03:02:11 PM »
  Janis,
  Mines also placed in a few beds according growing conditions then by alphabetic manes. But it would be helpful to put them by group. For example biflorus grp. olivieri grp, flavus grp., antalyesis grp., chrysanthus grp, reticulatus grp, sieberi grp, ext.  If there is anything different between them you can see easy by the leaves widenes or flowering time. ex.
  I think this same also for the photos taken. If I put name fauseri they go different corner, if I put biflorus fauseri they go another corner!. I think it would be better to put fauseri in biflorus folder then to put in another folder by species level. isn't it!



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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2012, 03:43:52 PM »
  Here are the rest of my photos Crocus fauseri from locus classicus.

« Last Edit: January 08, 2012, 05:40:56 PM by ibrahim »

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Re: New Crocus species described.... one named for Forumist Otto Fauser
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2012, 03:49:33 PM »
Fantastic ibrahim
can't wait to see the open flower

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