Juno (Scorpiris) season 2012

[PeterT]

I bought this two years ago at a small local fair. It was marked as 'Blue Juno'. It was a small plant, I estimated perhaps a two year old seedling. I also bought a few 'Yellow Juno' (turned out to be some decent looking I.bucharica ), and some 'White Juno' ( I.magnifica). As they were only £1 each I didn't really care what they were. The lady on the stall said here husband grew them , and she didnt know anything about their history. It got badly frozen in its pot last year, but still tried to put out a flower, but this was badly deformed. This year its doubled and has about 5 flowers coming, and a couple on its offspring. Trouble is ... what is it? . At first I thought rich coloured I.vicaria, but then started to see I. warleyensis. . Now I've convinced myself that someone has been dabbling with a paint brush and I've got a 'mongrel'. . 

Jan was just saying that this is a beautiful hybrid - his post got lost! 

Ron, could your Iris be "Prominence" or "Sinbad"? I grow neither, but the names come to mind and I have seen a pictureof it in a cataloge somewhere.

[Alex]

Just been in the greenhouse and was pondering that, despite a few nice Juno flowers, it has mostly been a pretty poor Juno year for me with many regulars not flowering and looking smaller; presumably this relates to the last growing season. I also noticed that last year's Pleione growth was unusually good, as have others in the Pleione threads. Is this the predictable consequence of a sunless Summer? How are other UK growers Junos doing in general?

Cheers,

Alex

[PeterT]

It has been a good season for my junos, but few flowers so far, due to the weak bulbs after two bad growing years!
The Tovil d Ara offsett you sent me 18 months ago flowerd nicely though Alex.

[ronm]

I dont know either of these Peter, so dont know if this could be one of them. It does seem to be a hybrid though ( my own concerns plus comments on this forum ), so it has got to go. If there is to be an auction Maggi, then this and a few others are committed, if not then I'll dispose of it elsewhere. Thanks to all who have commented so far.

[PeterT]

I sympathise Ron, but I sometimes first generation hybreds can be interesting both in that they show relationship and are posiable, also second generation are interesting to see the throw backs.

Do Iris vicaria and Iris warleyensis meet in the wild?
I think that some species of juno also hybridise in the wild... Perhaps Jan or Janis could say more on this?

[Jan]

Some pictures

[ronm]

 , Oh, I see you also grow one or two Junos then Jan !!!

[ronm]

Thanks Peter . No sympathy neccessary, it only cost a pound and I've had the pleasure of growing it, and the anticipation / excitement of waiting for the flower. However, to my mind, a man made hybrid is not something I really want as it doesnt fit in with my scheme of things ( applies only to my Frits, Junos, and Crocus ), and a hybrid of unknown provenance doubly so.  . It is  a very lovely plant though, 

[Hans A.]

Welcome Jan, a fascinating start!

Some Junos are still in flower here - Iris stenophylla and Iris x 'Sindpers', latter fascinates me more and more, it is easy and has a good number of flowers in a good size - perhaps I should try to remake this cross using different colourforms of I.persica - I suppose it is a Iris  persica x Iris aucheri (or Iris aucheri x Iris persica)?

[ronm]

Sindpers = aucheri x persica. 

[ian mcenery]

Some pictures

Lovely collection 

So you are just a beginner then Jan 

[ian mcenery]

Welcome Jan, a fascinating start!

Some Junos are still in flower here - Iris stenophylla and Iris x 'Sindpers', latter fascinates me more and more, it is easy and has a good number of flowers in a good size - perhaps I should try to remake this cross using different colourforms of I.persica - I suppose it is a Iris  persica x Iris aucheri (or Iris aucheri x Iris persica)?

Hans the sindpers looks good enough to eat

[Jan]

some junos

1. photo -  J.nicolai and J. rosenbachiana
2. photo -  natural hybrid J.svetlanae x J.warleyensis
3. photo -  J.hippolyti
4. photo -  natural hybrid J.magnifica x J.svetlanae
5. photo -  Juno rosenbachiana

[Jan]

Peter,   J.vicaria and J.warleyensis are hybrid in nature.

[ronm]

Great pictures, Jan.  Thank you,
Natural hybrids.... are they very common?? ( now what to do?  )