How Many Yellows Available?

[Brian Ellis]

Perhaps Brian Ellis has some more information about 'Windsor Yellow' ?

No, I don't grow it Chris, but saw it on John's blog last year and made a mental note (fortunately one that remained in my head for once).

[snowdropman]

Perhaps Brian Ellis has some more information about 'Windsor Yellow' ?

No, I don't grow it Chris, but saw it on John's blog last year and made a mental note (fortunately one that remained in my head for once).

Thanks Brian - I had quite forgotten that it was on John's blog last year and that he had posted a photo - www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6670.0;attach=264837;image

I see that John saw this in Carolyn Millen's garden - if you are looking in Carolyn, can you tell us any more about the origins of 'Windsor Yellow'?

[Maggi Young]

I want Schwefelgeschwafel, just so I can say the name over and over...

More than once might be mistaken for angeberisches Geschwafel Anne.    Say that 3 times.

johnw

sophomoric ramblings ? That's bad enough to say in English... and about as confusing!

[snowdropman]

Spetchley Yellow.

Plicatus Gold Edge is not yellow, at least those I have from UK sources are not.

It is shown in Gunter's book as having one very large yellow mark. Wrong plant?

johnw

John & John

A great deal of confusion seems to have crept in here – what you refer to are two entirely different snowdrops.

The G. plicatus 'Gold Edge' in 'Snowdrops', which was found by Phil Cornish, has a yellow margin to the leaf edge, but is otherwise green. I believe that this is the plant which Foxgrove Plants were selling in 2007 & 2008 with the description "A variegated form, which seems to be fairly constant and worth growing. Flowers are nicely shaped.” A photo of this is posted on the website that Gunter Waldorf helped to set up at http://galanthus-online.de/kultivare-e-h/gold-edge.html

Unfortunately, in their catalogues, Foxgrove Plants incorrectly named it G. plicatus 'Gilt Edge' so, presumably, there are now a lot of snowdrops circulating under this incorrect name!

I have not seen Gunter's book, but the snowdrop that he has found does indeed have the very nice yellow marks to which you refer. Gunter posted a photo of this snowdrop on the SRGC Forum in January 2010 and the caption to the photo was ‘Gilt Edge’ http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4674.msg133288#msg133288 and there was some ensuing discussion about whether or not this was a plicatus and whether the name ‘Gilt Edge’ was available.

Gunter very kindly sent me a bulb of this form, under the name ‘Gilt Edge’ and this is how I have listed it on my list of yellows on this thread.

[johnw]

Chris - So Foxgrove renamed their plant 'Gold Edge' to 'Gilt Edge' and Gunter reanmed his 'Gold Edge' 'Gilt Edge'.  

Ah the snowdrop world.  

johnw

[Sean Fox]

John, I think what Chris is saying is Gunter always called his find Gilt Edge and it was Foxgroves who sold Gold Edge wrongly named as Gilt Edge. So two entirely different snowdrops are in circulation with the same name of Gilt Edge, one being correct ( found by Gunter) and one being incorrect (found by Phil). All very confusing, but just goes to show how easliy these mistakes can happen.

[johnw]

Sean - But Gunter has his Gilt Edge in his book as Gold Edge.  Might be a slip of the pen.

johnw

[Sean Fox]

Sean - But Gunter has his Gilt Edge in his book as Gold Edge.  Might be a slip of the pen.

johnw

Ah I see, right I'm off for a lie down in a darkened room 

[Maggi Young]

Sean - But Gunter has his Gilt Edge in his book as Gold Edge.  Might be a slip of the pen.

johnw

Ah I see, right I'm off for a lie down in a darkened room  

Is there  room there for another, Sean?  

[johnw]

ay the name over and over...

More than once might be mistaken for angeberisches Geschwafel Anne.    Say that 3 times.johnw[/quote]
sophomoric ramblings ? That's bad enough to say in English... and about as confusing! [/quote]

How about "high-faluting talk" Maggi?

The snowdrop "Schwefelgeschwafel"  by online translator is Sulphur Twaddle.

johnw

[Maggi Young]

High-falutin' talk is much easier to say, for sure...... Any way you slice it!

I love the idea of 'Sulphur Twaddle' .... can just picture introducing a visitor to the little clump.... "that's pretty" .... "yes, it's 'Sulphur Twaddle' " 

[Anthony Darby]

Someone with a sense of humour? All that glisters ................

[annew]

High-falutin' talk is much easier to say, for sure...... Any way you slice it!

I love the idea of 'Sulphur Twaddle' .... can just picture introducing a visitor to the little clump.... "that's pretty" .... "yes, it's 'Sulphur Twaddle' " 

Oh, yes - almost as good as the German.

[snowdropman]

When I drew up my list of yellows, I had quite forgotten G. nivalis 'Goldcrest' (which I have now added to that list)

For those that do not know this newer discovery, I repeat below the brief report by Alan Leslie in the 2003/4 RHS Daffodil, Snowdrop & Tulip Yearbook viz

“For the golden galanthophile addict the best news of the day was the report of another nivalis with gold marks on the tips of the outer segments. This plant came to light in a garden near Thetford, Norfolk, and is to be named ‘Goldcrest’.”

I understand that 'Goldcrest' has been successfully twin-scaled, but I suspect that it will be a while yet before it starts to become available.

I am sure that I must have missed others off my List of Yellows, so please do let me know if you think of one

[snowdropman]

Apparently, at his talk today at the Blacksmith's Cottage Nursery snowdrop event, Joe Sharman mentioned 'Treasure Island', described as a really good mighty atom type but beautiful strong yellow - I have added this to the list of yellows above