Is it worth to become the garden cultivars? some selections from the wild...

[Alan_b]

Sorry, Lesley, Martin, I overstated my case and have modified what I originally wrote in an attempt to correct this.    

[Oakwood]

so, what a hot discussion on a matter! 

Lesley, Martin, no, you didn't offend me at all! I just want to know if this selections I found in nature in some time are beautiful or interesting from an aesthetic point of view? and if there are now some known garden cultivars that are similar to those found.  I don't intend to make them legal cultivars with strict names! nor enter into a semantic debates with native English speakers 

[Martin Baxendale]

Hello Dimitri. I'm very happy that you haven't been offended by this discussion. It wasn't intended to be a criticism of you and your snowdrops, most of which I think are very attractive and which I'm sure may have the potential to make very good garden plants. On here, as in any online forum, it's sometimes easy for comments which are intended to be friendly and helpful advice to be taken as unfriendly criticisms when people are writing quick comments and we can't hear their voice or see their face to help us understand their mood and their feelings. It happens a lot, not just in this discussion. 

[Alan_b]

Yes, I wrote something out-of-turn and stupidly raised the temperature of the debate by several notches; apologies again.

Back to the plants, I want to say something in defence of No. 4.  Whilst I think it is ugly if evaluated as a conventional snowdrop, it still has a kind of beauty in its own right and I would be happy to grow it in my garden.  So long as it isn't contagious!

[Oakwood]

Back to the plants, I want to say something in defence of No. 4.  Whilst I think it is ugly if evaluated as a conventional snowdrop, it still has a kind of beauty in its own right and I would be happy to grow it in my garden.  So long as it isn't contagious!

Alan, I'm not sure it is phytoplasma, equally it could turn to be genetic disorder! The same whole green flower habit is for garden tulip varieties I'm growing - see here below, the central one variety is pure green calyx-like habit, so, what is it???

[Martin Baxendale]

Sorry, Lesley, Martin, I overstated my case and have modified what I originally wrote in an attempt to correct this.    

Sorry I may have over-reacted a bit to your comments. I've also edited my reply.

[Brian Ellis]

... I think I've made it pretty clear in the past that I'm not in favour of naming snowdrops quickly when they're still only a small clump in one locality before they've been properly trialled for garden worthiness and especially when they've recently come from the wild and it's not certain how they'll do in gardens.

This very thing was emphasized by Joe Sharman on Saturday at Blacksmith's Nursery where he showed many from his breeding programme which were still unnamed as they needed to stand the test of time.

[Alan_b]

Wise words from Joe but I cannot help thinking of a particular example close to my heart that Joe and I collected in 2004 and which went on sale (in very limited numbers) in 2008.  He must have started with two bulbs and chipped one whilst keeping the second under observation.  So he had three seasons to reach the conclusion that it was garden-worthy and had built up enough stock to sell a few in the fourth season.  That's frighteningly efficient (and he's right, it is a good doer).     

[Olga Bondareva]

I'm not sure it is phytoplasma

Zub do you have any possibility to make a microbiological test?

And of course I am the first in the list of those who want your snowdrops. 

[art600]

Olga

Perhaps I was too subtle when I said I would be happy to trial the snowdrops in my garden 

[Olga Bondareva]

Olga

Perhaps I was too subtle when I said I would be happy to trial the snowdrops in my garden  

Yes!  

I like plants with a history. And I would be glad to tell about snowdrop "This one nice variety was found bu my friend in Krymea in 200...". Even if it is similar to kinds already exist.

[Lesley Cox]

So pleased we're all friends again.

[Oakwood]

Hello Dimitri. I'm very happy that you haven't been offended by this discussion. It wasn't intended to be a criticism of you and your snowdrops, most of which I think are very attractive and which I'm sure may have the potential to make very good garden plants. On here, as in any online forum, it's sometimes easy for comments which are intended to be friendly and helpful advice to be taken as unfriendly criticisms when people are writing quick comments and we can't hear their voice or see their face to help us understand their mood and their feelings. It happens a lot, not just in this discussion. 

Martin, I agree with you, the cultivar must be stable in culture, must have some useful properties, must be resistant to diseases, must be compared on similarity with other already known registered cultivars and should be tested in a culture in several gardens in different climatic regions before to be named and registered.

[Oakwood]

Olga

Perhaps I was too subtle when I said I would be happy to trial the snowdrops in my garden  

Yes!  

I like plants with a history. And I would be glad to tell about snowdrop "This one nice variety was found bu my friend in Krymea in 200...". Even if it is similar to kinds already exist.

OLGA!!!! Hello! Nice to hear from you)))) МИР ТРУД МАЙ!!!   

[Alan_b]

...The same whole green flower habit is for garden tulip varieties I'm growing - see here below, the central one variety is pure green calyx-like habit, so, what is it???

At least the green tulip is still recognisably a tulip whereas, from the flower, your green snowdrop isn't really recognisably a snowdrop.