Crocus February 2012

[Armin]

This form looks like having blood from heuffelianus (dark markings on outer flower segments) and napolitanus (stripes on inner segments)

What height does your special vernus measure, Gerry?

On the german wikipedia pages there is one form matching by discription C. „sarplaninae“ found in Macedonia.
But there's no image.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocus_vernus

C. vernus family complex is another mystery which needs more investigation and DNA studies.

[Gerry Webster]

Tony - I'm following Brian Mathew who regards C.vernus subsp. vernus as a single, very  variable entity.

So he does, how sensible

I thought you'd approve Tony!

[Gerry Webster]

What height does your special vernus measure, Gerry?

Armin - I'll have to measure it tomorrow - it's dark now. I suspect it is not now at it full height since it was sent through the post whilst in growth (i.e., bud) The pot in the photo is 8cm diam.  so this would make the crocus about 7-8cm.

[Armin]

thanks, definitive not the size of a dutch crocus X cultorum.

[Gerry Webster]

Tony - I'm following Brian Mathew who regards C.vernus subsp. vernus as a single, very  variable entity.

So he does, how sensible

I thought you'd approve Tony!

I've just looked at BM's 2002 revision (in The Plantsman) where he recognises, albeit rather reluctantly, C. vernus subsp. heuffelianus which I suppose my plant would fall under.

[Gerry Webster]

What height does your special vernus measure, Gerry?

Armin - I've just measured it, 8cm tall.

[tonyg]

A few hours of sunshine did wonders for the crocus here today

Crocus tommasinianus - from Primrose Warburgs garden, I call this one Claret & Cream (there is a claret coloured one without the cream outers)

Crocus biflorus ssp - thanks Art!

Crocus sieberi ssp sieberi seedlings.  The variation increases but are some hybrids with ssp sublimis or atticus?

Crocus tommasinianus 'Bobbo' - a Bowles raising, perhaps the nicest tommy?

[Armin]

Thanks Gerry

Tony,
very nice croci images. The Claret & Cream is lovely contrasted for a tommy.

[Martin Baxendale]

A few hours of sunshine did wonders for the crocus here today

Crocus tommasinianus - from Primrose Warburgs garden, I call this one Claret & Cream (there is a claret coloured one without the cream outers)

I have a lot like this, seedlings from similar tommies given  to my dad by Oliver Wyatt. Quite possibly the same stock that Primrose Warburg had.

[mark smyth]

Claret and Cream - very nice.  if and when you guys have any to spare think of me.

[Janis Ruksans]

CLARET AND CREAM is phantastic. C. sieberi on Crete is extremely variable. Mid March I will go there just to picture variability in wild. Yours, Tony, looks as pure sieberi. I still didn't get hybrids with atticus.
Janis

[ronm]

C.abantensis
This one opened nicely for me today.

[ian mcenery]

A few hours of sunshine did wonders for the crocus here today

Crocus tommasinianus - from Primrose Warburgs garden, I call this one Claret & Cream (there is a claret coloured one without the cream outers)

Crocus biflorus ssp - thanks Art!

Crocus sieberi ssp sieberi seedlings.  The variation increases but are some hybrids with ssp sublimis or atticus?

Crocus tommasinianus 'Bobbo' - a Bowles raising, perhaps the nicest tommy?

Tony very unusual and nice tommy this one . Well I suppose all tommies are nice and good garden plants

[johnw]

Well I suppose all tommies are nice and good garden plants

Ian  - I certainly have to agree with that.  It's the best and most rampant of all Crocus here. I should be growing more from seed to see what might just happen. We can't get the whites or cultivars other than Roseus, Ruby Giant and Whitewell Purple and worse the last two seem hopelessly muddled in the trade here.

johnw

[Janis Ruksans]

Ruby Giant is one of the best but unfortunately sterile (true cultivar).
Janis