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Paul T

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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #180 on: March 16, 2012, 10:58:51 AM »
Maggi,

The form I grow is predominantly red-brown with a green "keel" down the middle of each petal, thicker on the outer petals and thinner on the inner ones.  Still not quite like the stamp though, which shows almost a pinkish tinge and much more flared?
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #181 on: March 16, 2012, 11:30:37 AM »
F. stribryni - BULB LOG 17 --- 23rd April 2008

http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2008/230408/log.html   - so it is, Gerry. ;)
We have a paler form as well....but Ian can't lay hands on a photo.  :-X
Has anyone seen one the colour shown in the stamp?
The capsule - winged - is shown in:

BULB LOG 23 --- 4th June 08

If I remember correctly, the plant I had many  years ago (from Norman Stevens) was predominantly green with some purple. Rix describes the flower colour as "outside purple or glaucous green edged purple; inside yellowish edged purple, not tessellated".
« Last Edit: March 16, 2012, 11:38:38 AM by Gerry Webster »
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #182 on: March 16, 2012, 11:43:42 AM »
This is a link to the Red Data Book for Bulgaria- only a drawing of the flower - but darker with a green stripe
http://e-ecodb.bas.bg/rdb/en/vol1/Fristrib.html

Dimitar Peev in his book "Diva Krasota" describes it as 20-30cm high with fragile stems, lanceolate leaves, brownish flowers with a nectar bearing dimple.
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #183 on: March 16, 2012, 11:47:34 AM »
The correct spelling appears to be F. stribrnyi,  apparently after the gentleman who first described it from Bulgaria, Plovdiv, Nova Mahala, 1892. (Rix, Kew Bull, 1978, p585)
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #184 on: March 16, 2012, 12:04:14 PM »
More on Fritillaria stribrnyi.....

Aha! Found the paler version... http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/220403/log.html

Lighter form and a darker seedling:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2009May061241611658BULB_LOG_18.pdf

seed pods, as mentioned by Gerry : http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2008/040608/log.html
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #185 on: March 16, 2012, 12:40:17 PM »
Excellent.
Thanks Maggi ;). Really hoping for seed this year.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2012, 01:16:19 PM by ronm »

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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #186 on: March 17, 2012, 12:36:49 AM »
I think V. Pilous lists seed. He certainly did a few years back. That's where I got mine from. When my little round thingy arrived from Roumania a week or two ago, the package had stamps with forget-me-nots on them and I was sent a beautiful stamp recently from the Czech Republic (I think the stamp was sent from R. of I?) with a lovely iris on it. Should have started collecing flower stamps instead of plants. Less expensive in the long run.
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #187 on: March 17, 2012, 03:49:22 PM »
A few updates  ;D

1 & 2 Fritillaria bucharica this just gets better and better  ;D
3.& 4 Fritillaria raddeana
5      Fritillaria michailovskyi
6      Fritillaria uva-vulpis, these were supplied as Fritillaria graeca   :( ::) that is very annoying.
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #188 on: March 17, 2012, 04:14:58 PM »
Very Nice Fred.  :) :)
It is very very annoying when that happens as it, in most instances, cannot be a case of misstaken identity >:(. At best it is total incompetence and at worst premeditated fraud. I hope you will let them know. I have had the same this year with three bulbs of F.pinardii 'Ole Sondehause'. I don't much care for named forms etc. but thought I would try this one as it is obviously F.pinardii, and would introduce some different genes into my clones of this species. I bought three and they have all come up as F.amana. I have told the nursery concerned and they apologised and said they don't grow them but get them from a bloke in Holland! and the mix up must have been his. I will never do business with this company again, and will 'bad mouth' them in private , verbally , to anyone who is interested. There is another thread on this forum titled 'is business ripping us off' or something like that. The horticultural business is probably the worst of all >:( >:( >:(.
I have many F.graeca Fred, if you would like some bulbs later in the year please let me know.

p.s. - do you know which form of F.bucharica your is? Great photos.
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #189 on: March 17, 2012, 05:45:00 PM »
p.s. - do you know which form of F.bucharica your is?

I'm afraid not Ron, at the moment I'm just happy it is F bucharica

Great photos.

Thank you  ;D
I noticed in a previous post of yours you mention the cost of a decent camera.
The one I use was less than £100 and I think the photos are definitely acceptable.
MrsG uses the expensive bridge camera ( £120 Olympus)  ;D

I did a thread a while back http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7191.0
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #190 on: March 17, 2012, 05:53:50 PM »
Thanks Fred - it doesnt matter, it is a very nice F.bucharica ;D ;D

Interesting thread  - thanks for pointing me in its direction. Obviously you know about these things. Some great photos on there. Very interesting. You certainly got the P.grandiflora colour pretty much nailed. ;D. I paid £70 for Noras Nikon. Maybe I'm not using it to its full capability. I'll have to have a play ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #191 on: March 17, 2012, 07:02:25 PM »
...................Maybe I'm not using it to its full capability.

Euphenistic phrase for 'Haven't read the manuel? ;D
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #192 on: March 17, 2012, 07:05:49 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #193 on: March 18, 2012, 12:12:03 PM »
Hi,

I have seen seed for fritillaria meleagris in the seed ex, described as twin flowered, much as it might be described as for the white variety.

I've a fritillaria meleagris which has had a single flower for many years, this year it has two.

So is the twin flowering just like in lilies where bigger bulbs tend to have more flowers, rather than some inherited trait.

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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #194 on: March 18, 2012, 12:32:14 PM »
I am of that opinion David. It happens a lot in my Fritillaria, but doesn't necessarily mean the same will happen the following year.

 


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