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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #585 on: October 20, 2012, 07:21:28 PM »
 ;D ;D You're probably right David  ;D ... but.............. seriously .....

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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #586 on: October 20, 2012, 11:16:53 PM »
Perhaps Jānis can help you Ron.

A botanising trip to far eastern Siberia? I envy you.
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« Reply #587 on: October 20, 2012, 11:26:08 PM »
Still so much planning to do. Plenty of room available   ;D ;D
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #588 on: October 21, 2012, 12:00:48 AM »
Thanks Ron 8) 
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #589 on: October 21, 2012, 01:00:58 PM »
Flowering for me at present.....

Fritillaria camschatcensis.  This one a dark form.  I am awaiting another one to open, which is supposedly much paler a green with darker edging.  That one multiplies freely, while the one in my picture has unfortunately never multiplied in the more than a decade that I've had it.   :'(
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #590 on: October 21, 2012, 08:41:23 PM »
I have both a very dark form of F. camschatcensis, and a more greenish one. They both multiply freely, but in different ways. The new bulbs on the greenish form come up in a very tight clump close to the original bulb, while the dark form sends out root shots and the new bulbs are formed at the end of these shots, some times as far as 20 cm or more from the original bulb.
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #591 on: October 21, 2012, 08:49:38 PM »
Seems that the plants we grow as F.camschatcensis may well be three ( or maybe four ) quite distinct plants, that are more closely related to other Fritillaria than they are to each other. 8)

But then maybe some of us always 'knew' this and are just waiting for the scientists to confirm it! 8) 8)
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #592 on: October 21, 2012, 09:18:59 PM »
Quote from: ronm on October 21, 2012, 08:49:38 PM
Seems that the plants we grow as F.camschatcensis may well be three ( or maybe four ) quite distinct plants, that are more closely related to other Fritillaria than they are to each other. 8)



I have had the same thoughts
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #593 on: October 22, 2012, 09:47:31 PM »
Ron and Magnar - please don't DO that! We don't want again, the same discussion that we have just finished ;D

My own camschatcensis bulbs are budding up well but nothing out yet. All mine are the green/black form and I'd like some red/black as well but it is one species that spreads about in a rather profligate way here.

Otherwise, my last frit in bloom is a pyrenaica, almost fully black with no other colour. Raised from FGAGS seed as pyrenaica lutea! I'd go and photograph it if the darned rain would stop. I don't think we've had a day this month without rain and almost every night as well. October is usually a beautiful month.
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #594 on: October 23, 2012, 02:44:43 PM »
 ;D ;D .............

Better not mention the Japanese species then !!  ;)

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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #595 on: October 25, 2012, 04:38:08 PM »
I repotted my Frit. davidii earlier this year.  I was too late to catch it dormant last year. Anyway the leaves are through :) 
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« Reply #596 on: October 27, 2012, 02:01:32 PM »
Quote from: shelagh on October 25, 2012, 04:38:08 PM
I repotted my Frit. davidii earlier this year.  I was too late to catch it dormant last year. Anyway the leaves are through :)

maybe we could organise a pollen swap Shelagh?
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #597 on: October 27, 2012, 05:18:28 PM »
Most sincere apologies Lesley, but I really would like to follow up on this here.  :)

As I look deeper and further into F.camschatcensis the variation that is within the species becomes more and more interesting. This is one of the Japanese plants. I certainly don't grow anything like it!

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB:Fritillaria_camschatcensis_Kuroyuri_in_hakusan_2002-7-25.jpg

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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #598 on: October 27, 2012, 05:46:26 PM »
Quote from: ronm on October 27, 2012, 05:18:28 PM

As I look deeper and further into F.camschatcensis the variation that is within the species becomes more and more interesting. This is one of the Japanese plants. I certainly don't grow anything like it!

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB:Fritillaria_camschatcensis_Kuroyuri_in_hakusan_2002-7-25.jpg

I do remember quite a lot of discussion about the variability and/or regional differences in Frit. camschatcensis - but I'm wondering if the posts I am thinking off where lost in the disappearance of the Old Forum format -  I remember Clay Koplin showed some marvelous forms from his area in Alaska ..... :-\    I'll see if I can track them down.......
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Re: Fritillaria 2012
« Reply #599 on: October 27, 2012, 06:09:02 PM »
Tsk! I think the posts I remember were in the old forum - found this interesting post from Clay about the growing habits of the plants though....  8)


http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=863.msg20440#msg20440
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