Galanthus naming- digression from Gala 2012 thread

[daveyp1970]

whoops! pasting that link bombed! back of class Owen

Also the pasting could have been pasted better.

[Maggi Young]

Dear me, Steve, for a man who has a national collection I would have thought  that you would have understood the importance of clarity and lack of ambiguity in naming.

For those of us who truly delight in the glory of the flowers, there is more of the Gradgrind in the obsessive naming and and collecting than in a simple desire to wish that a name means something tangible.
I fear you are missing my point.



There was no intention by Maggi Young to cast aspersions on the important work that Steve Owen does in holding a National Collection. Indeed Maggi has the deepest respect for all the holders of national collections who, like Members of  the SRGC volunteer their time in the cause of the plants.

[Martin Baxendale]

Perhaps we should all take a deep breath and let this one go before it creates bad feelings. I fear I may have stirred up a nomenclatural hornets' nest, for which I apologise.

[johnw]

I suspect not because I am already wondering how it is possible to have an improved 'Cicely Hall'!

Tim - I thought the same thing standing right in front of it with 'Cicely Hall' off to my left.  If CHI performs better at Primrose Hill then maybe so, the clump was quite substantial compared to that of Cicely Hall, flowers maybe 10% bigger but then again RH has probably been propagting from his CH clump.  I'd have humbly offered to try it here but...

Have to say Robin knows his bananas.

johnw

[Paddy Tobin]

Steve,

The naming of plants is, indeed, quite pedantic but,  perhaps unfortunately at times, perfectly necessary. Having two snowdrops with the same name makes no sense at all.

Paddy

[David Nicholson]

..and after seeing Joe Sharman and other worthies standing about in the perishing cold today to give us a chance to buy our hearts' desires, maybe this is an opportune moment to comment how much we owe not just to BDG but to the Sharmans/Streets/Mackenzies/Morleys/Broadhursts etc of this world who do their stuff in the coldest wettest months to give us a service and a choice. Gentlemen (and some ladies), some of whom I haven't cited above, take a bow.

The fact that they make a few quid out of it might have a bearing

[Tim Ingram]

Trust a Yorkshireman! But I think you are wrong David - snowdrops have that same fascination that alpines have; it is that sense of detail and origins, but in this case to do with places and gardeners, more than the mountains. They tend to creep up on you because people give them to you to start with, and then what can you do but keep on buying lots more!! (Actually I have not bought any for a year or two because the prices have got a little silly, so I am becoming an honorary northerner!).

[Paddy Tobin]

..and after seeing Joe Sharman and other worthies standing about in the perishing cold today to give us a chance to buy our hearts' desires, maybe this is an opportune moment to comment how much we owe not just to BDG but to the Sharmans/Streets/Mackenzies/Morleys/Broadhursts etc of this world who do their stuff in the coldest wettest months to give us a service and a choice. Gentlemen (and some ladies), some of whom I haven't cited above, take a bow.

The fact that they make a few quid out of it might have a bearing

I expect, David,  that a snowdrop with a good name is more saleable. The fact that another snowdrop already bears that name is simply a minor inconvenience to be ignored.

Paddy

[daveyp1970]

Joe could always name it Roo Be Baker 

[emma T]

What about  Break Bury ? its an anagram of Ruby Baker 

[emma T]

or 'corundum cook '

[daveyp1970]

or 'corundum cook '

Emma 'genius' we could start a naming the snowdrop competition. Lets see if Joe will donate sed snowdrop as a prize.

[emma T]

  i thought it was quite good lol

[Maggi Young]

i thought it was quite good lol

It is!!! 

[Brian Ellis]

Better than Rubber Yak