Snowdrops in March 2012

[Olga Bondareva]

I think the reason was that your G.platyphyllus is much much earlier than my G.platyphyllus ex Georgia ...it has startet with flowering in January ....and than so many nights cold without any snow 

Yes. That's the worse situation. 
Are bulbs still alive?

[johnw]

Not so nice looks the G.platyphyllus ex Russia (G.valentinei) ...but I think it has survived  

Hans what a sad news.   What is the reason do you think? G. valentinae survived very bad winters in my garden.

Your platyphyllus looks absolutely perfect!

Hans / Olga

I am getting confused.  What do you mean by G.platyphyllus ex Russia ( G.valentinei)?  Is x valentinae not plicatus x nivalis so I do not understand the connection with platyphyllus?

I agree with Anthony, much better to be the father of many platyphyllus than mere hybrids.  Are there any platyphyllus or krasnovii hybrids?

johnw

[Hans J]

JohnW :

please look in the snowdrop book from A.Davis - page 187

Davis has made G.valentinae as synonym for G.krasnovii ...but after seeing this plants I'm not shure .
It looks more like G.platyphyllus ...but the location is from Russia ....
( sorry I have written G.valentinei ...it must be valentinae )
Please look here for pics :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3205.0

To your other question : G.krasnovii and G.platyphyllus have not the same flowering time in my garden ...

Hans

[johnw]

Hans - Thanks.

I had read page 187 with valentinae as a synonym for krasnovii but it is not mentioned in his later krasnovii treatment in the Davies, Bishop, Grimshaw book.

In any event do you think it may struggle to send a shoot out later?

johnw

     

[johnw]

Hans - re: your snowdrop

Maybe G. joschkoae sounds good?

johnw

[Hans J]

I think the reason was that your G.platyphyllus is much much earlier than my G.platyphyllus ex Georgia ...it has startet with flowering in January ....and than so many nights cold without any snow 

Yes. That's the worse situation. 
Are bulbs still alive?

Olga ,

I hope my bulbs are still alive 
One has start with flowering in January ( from the other no sign )...but after the big frost it looks not well - so it seems I have still only one ....I will later repotting this plant and look ....

Hans

[Hans J]

Hans - Thanks.

I had read page 187 with valentinae as a synonym for krasnovii but it is not mentioned in his later krasnovii treatment in the Davies, Bishop, Grimshaw book.

In any event do you think it may struggle to send a shoot out later?

johnw

     

JohnW

There are some faults in the book of Grimsaw,Bishop,Davis ....there is also wrong with G.transcaucasicus ,artjuschenkoae ...it is always the same problem if you have not seen the plant in nature ...and only herbar plants is difficould

I will look later for this plants when I repot ..I hope there is anything alive ....

[Hans J]

Hans - re: your snowdrop

Maybe G. joschkoae sounds good?

johnw

 

JohnW :

why give a new name ?
This plant has a good name - with a good description !
To much of honor for me 

Hans

[Olga Bondareva]

Hans, John,
G. valentinae (named after Valentina not Valentine) was described by Grossgame. May be I will have some news on it a little bit later.

There are some faults in the book of Grimsaw,Bishop,Davis ....there is also wrong with G.transcaucasicus ,artjuschenkoae ...it is always the same problem if you have not seen the plant in nature ...and only herbar plants is difficould

Yes. There are a lot of questions on Caucasian snowdrops.

[Hans J]

Olga ,

in my books is written that this snowdrop was descriptet from A.A. Grossheim ( sounds like a german name ) -do you mean the same person ?

Hans

[Hans J]

Olga ,

after a little search I have found it :

Grossh. - Alexander Alfonsowitsch Grossheim (~ ~ Grossgeim, Alexander Alfonsovich Grossheim) (1888–1948)

Now I understand the little difference in writing ...russinan people speaks Grossheim as Grossgeim ( I had former a collgue on my work he told me that they speak G for a H - he told me that my name in russian language would be "Gans"

 

[johnw]

Hans - Thanks.

I had read page 187 with valentinae as a synonym for krasnovii but it is not mentioned in his later krasnovii treatment in the Davies, Bishop, Grimshaw book.

In any event do you think it may struggle to send a shoot out later?

johnw

     

JohnW

There are some faults in the book of Grimsaw,Bishop,Davis ....there is also wrong with G.transcaucasicus ,artjuschenkoae ...it is always the same problem if you have not seen the plant in nature ...and only herbar plants is difficould

I will look later for this plants when I repot ..I hope there is anything alive ....

Hans

As another forumist - no names mentioned - says: a taxonomist takes a plant, leaves it on the barbecue for 15 minutes then proceeds to describe it .     


Good luck with your plant.

johnw

[KentGardener]

Gosh.   I wonder if my "Belle Etoile" survived?

Nice to see Hagen's 'Belle Etoile'.  Mine was up to 5 bulbs last year - but this year had gone back on itself to 2 bulbs (only one was flowering size  )  Fingers crossed it increases again for next year.....   

[Olga Bondareva]

Grossgame

Grossheim

Grossgeim

 
I really do not know how to transliterate the name to keep the right pronunciation. And I was too lazy to look into books, sorry.
OK, 1:1.   
Yes we use hard G. In all German fairytales translated to Russian you can read Gans not Hans. And we say Genry not Henry. It's a feature of language. Like you say Olga but we say Ol'ga (soft L).

[Hans J]

Olga :

 

Hans