Moan, moan, moan----get it off your chest or have a chat

[johnw]

Best wishes for your meeting John

We'll the meeting with Toyota is over. The mat may be the culprit. Under the pedal there is a small recessed square depression. The lower end of the pedal when fully depressed goes into it and when it does it pushes the rubber mat down into it which locks the pedal in the depression.  Still I am apprehensive.

They did offer me a guaranteed new replacement.

johnw

LA SEULE TOYOTA N'AYANT PAS ÉTÉ RAPPELÉE...!!!

[Maggi Young]

Oh, I don't know..... if there's a stampede..... isn't that unintended acceleration?   

[Lesley Cox]

Thanks Anthony, that was useful  -  and the ad didn't come up for me.

Love the Cowrolla. 

[Lesley Cox]

The lower end of the pedal when fully depressed goes into it and when it does it pushes the rubber mat down into it which locks the pedal in the depression.

Well, if you men will drive with your foot flat to the floor.....

[Anthony Darby]

I wish the powers that be here would hurry up and raise the driving age. They've been promising to raise it from 17 to 18 for years. It would certainly lower the death toll and perhaps my insurance premiums?

[johnw]

Oh, I don't know..... if there's a stampede..... isn't that unintended acceleration?   

And worse, if the wind is blowing in the wrong direction you might get the same reception as at the car dealer's.

johnw

[Lesley Cox]

Anthony the driving age here is just 15! and only now after so many needless deaths not only of the 15 year olds but the others whom they take out, is the Govt starting to think seriously about raising it - to 16! There is a very strong rural lobby against raising because kids would have to be driven to sports and other stuff in the country, long drives often, for busy parents. But I think it will happen this time. The drinking age is 18, lowered from 20 about 10 years ago because the (woman) Prime Minister of the time saw it as a way to catch the 18 year old votes, in the pending general election. NZ has had the worst binge drinking record among teenagers ever since with 12 and 13 year olds ending up comatose in hospital. A 16 year old boy died this last weekend, after slogging back a bottle of vodka, pinched from his parents' home. The drinking age may well go up to 20 again but of course students are dead against that. The current PM is being ambivilent about it, likewise because he'll lose that vote next year.

Having said all that, no way will insurance premiums go DOWN whatever is done to make driving safer. It's not in the nature of insurance companies, or power companies or..or..or.. to lower prices.

[angie]

 
Having said all that, no way will insurance premiums go DOWN whatever is done to make driving safer. It's not in the nature of insurance companies, or power companies or..or..or.. to lower prices.
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Well that's true enough Lesley I have just received my insurance renewal and its up again and they are now saying that I need to fit a tracker in my car. Now what will that cost
Angie

[Anthony Darby]

I think the argument that parents would have to drive their children all over the place is pretty weak. They have to drive them when they are younger than 15 so what's the difference? My children have music lessons, hockey, tennis, athletics, choir practice etc. Sometimes we share cars with other parents, but not for music lessons. It also allows you to take an interest in your offsprings' hobbies or sports.

[mark smyth]

This year my insurance fell by £152!!

I went to compare the meercat and top of the pile was the Post Office. My renewel was £350 with a local company. PO was £198 for exactly the same. I phoned my insurance company and asked if they would match the PO quote and they said "would you stay with us for £260" and I said of course I love your company - NOT.

[Anthony Darby]

Result Mark!

[Lesley Cox]

Anthony, I think the argument is valid but still think the driving age is far too young in NZ. Valid because at 15 a lot of rural kids are playing high grade rugby with coaching two nights a week as well as Saturday games and often those practices and games are 100kms or more away from home, so it's a lot for parents to do. I just think they should live with it if they want their kids to take part in those activities. There was a time a few years back when virtually all of NZ's All Black rugby guys were off farms. Now most seem to be at university or from a law practice.

[Lesley Cox]

I love my two dogs, I really do and to be truthful I don't know which is responsible, but I'd hazzard a guess, knowing his love of digging. Last week I potted a number of bulbs and included in the mix, some bone flour as fertilizer. They are all outside as everything is. Today I find half a dozen pots are all over the place, the bulbs and labels scattered and in general a nasty mess to sort out. I'll have to put some chicken netting over the whole lot.

[Anthony Darby]

Anthony, I think the argument is valid but still think the driving age is far too young in NZ. Valid because at 15 a lot of rural kids are playing high grade rugby with coaching two nights a week as well as Saturday games and often those practices and games are 100kms or more away from home, so it's a lot for parents to do. I just think they should live with it if they want their kids to take part in those activities. There was a time a few years back when virtually all of NZ's All Black rugby guys were off farms. Now most seem to be at university or from a law practice.

Same here Lesley, but of course in Scotland we don't have high grade rugby. I think we have farms here though. I'm surprised, considering the high accident rate, the car insurance premiums for 15/16 year haven't priced most of them off the road?

[Lesley Cox]

Another failure of the system here is that car insurance is not compulsory, not even third party insurance so that if some idiot kid smashes your car, you have no cover except from your own company who then have to go after the other person, often unsuccessfully and so premiuns go up again. Insurance companies are pushing third party in their advertising but until it is compulsory, the problem will go on.

My own car was written off back in 1997 in a side-on crash, from an elderly woman who went through a STOP sign. I could see her talking to her companion and waving her arms about to emphasize her point and I think she simply didn't see the sign at all. She hit me broadside on the passenger side and thankfully I only had bruised ribs where the seatbelt got me. She had a broken arm and collarbone and spent some time in hospital. Buit she was 87 years old and I had a call from the police who said they should charge her with reckless driving causing injury and did I really want to have this elderly lady end up with a criminal record. If I was prepared to forego the charge, they would make sure her licence was withdrawn and she wouldn't be on the road again. Seemed reasonable so I agreed to that. But because she wasn't going to drive again and because her car was elderly and not worth much, she refused to make a claim which meant that I couldn't get insurance from her company. In the finish I had to threaten to sue her to get the insurance. After about 6 months the police rang me again and said she had taken a defensive driving course and was re-issued with her licence! I was flabbergasted! There are several drivers in NZ who are 100 years old or more. Not sure that I'm happy about that.