Moan, moan, moan----get it off your chest or have a chat

[maggiepie]

Um... what's a "league table"?

Paul, I'm glad I wasn't the only one wondering

[Maggi Young]

Well, you know in football,( even Aussie football??!!)  where the teams play in leagues?.... there are tables to record their progress up and down..... the AGS website has a similar table to show the current status of exhibitors through a show season.... showing how many firsts, second and third prizes have been won.... thus a "league table" is a shorthand reference to that table.... more formally called a "results page" , I think.
All good fun for those with a competitive nature, to spur them on, I daresay. Perhaps it should be run in conjunction with a table showing petrol prices?  

Perhaps performance tables would be a good name.... we have them  in the UK to show how schools perform, hospitals etc.... I'm sure you do too?

[maggiepie]

Maggi, it sounds like the honour board in schools with all the past dux's ( not sure what the plural of dux is?), hmmm well there you go, the plural is duces
So what happens at the end of the season, does the winner receive a special award?

[Maggi Young]

Yes, Helen, in both clubs the winner gets a trophy for a year .....

In the SRGC,for the Open section the trophy is, ...guess what... the AGS Salver!! It was a gift to the SRGC for a club anniversary ( 50 years, maybe, I don't recall offhand).... really lovely silver salver, about 20cms across.... very pretty thing..... and for the Section II, which is our "beginner" section,this award is newer and  the Trophy is the Rutland Salver .... though I cannot for the life of me remember why it has this name 

[maggiepie]

Thanks Maggi.

[Paul T]

Thanks for the explanation Maggi.

[J.B.Wyllie]

The Rutland Salver is named after the Pub (Hotel) where the idea of SRGC was first discussed. The building is at the west end of Princes St between Shandwick Place and Lothian Road. Signs of my miss spent youth. When I 1st met Jim he worked from an office in Rutland Sq. It was the local for him and his palls.

Jean

[maggiepie]

Hello Jean,

Any chance someone might have a picture of the Rutland Salver?
Isn't it nice that conversations can bring back good memories 

[Maggi Young]

Hmm. there will be onesomewhere, I'm sure. After ourtime in Section II ...the Shaw's won it... they may have a pic.
The AGS salver has been in our hot little hands on numerous occasions ..... the former SRGC Record Keeper told us that no-one had ever won it on each occasion with so many points.... but in those days such things were not even stated at the awarding of the trophy! Must have a photo somewhere.....

[maggiepie]

Maggi,

It seems to me, the holder of such a wonder must be the 'Royalty' of the alpine/rock gardeners world.
You must have pics squirrelled away, I would have zillions if it had been in my hot little hands!!

[Maggi Young]

I remember a "real" photo we had years ago of all that years' booty on a table together..... where to find it, that's the question, in this paper mountain that passes for home??!!
I found an article the Shaws wrote about winning the Rutland... no pic of the actual salver though!!
( in the Rock Garden, the journal of January 2004. No. 112 page 79

[maggiepie]

Maggi,  you're a peach, am off to look it up and have a read!!

Took me awhile, I got diverted by  Mary McMurtie, what an amazing woman and a fantastic life 
( she also looks familiar, I wonder how old she was when that picture was taken)

I really enjoyed David's article too, ( I wish there were farmer's fileld piles around here ) but now I have to ask, what is a 50/50 stall ??

[Greenmanplants]

Paul...League Tables

http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/shows/results/shows2009/Open_Section.html

Who has most points from the shows.  League Table Open Section...


Maggiepie,

50:50 stall.

At a show there is always a members sales table, you bring your spare seedlings and propagation material....they are sold off at very reasonable prices, you get 50% and the show organisers get 50%.  A win win win situation buyer, seller, and local group putting the work into making the show possible.

[David Shaw]

Thanks for that snippet of information, Jean. Might have known it was named after a pub. Typical SRGC!
As for a picture of the salver, it never occured to me to photograph it Maggie(pie), and we will never win it again.

[Carol Shaw]

Maggi perhaps we should line the three trophies up at the AGM and take a pix of them before Ian C hands them out again

No we wont. can't, win the Rutland again... the betting is on which Edinburgh member will win this year as an Edinburgh member has won for the past three years... hum perhaps they need handicapping