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Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« on: June 29, 2012, 11:42:21 PM »
Having seen this beauty so often on pictures, presented here by the forumists, I am wondering what type of Dactylorhiza this is.
It looks like a "maculata" but it may also be hybrid.
Is there anyone, knowing more about the origin of this clone?
What kind of Dacty is it?
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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2012, 09:54:29 AM »
A very good one!  ;D ;D ;D :) :) :)
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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2012, 10:02:23 AM »
I think it D. fuchsii and yes it very desireable. I know two people who have it but sadly they refuse to lift it and manipulate tuber production  :'(
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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2012, 10:47:20 AM »
Hi Mark,

Can you tell a bit more about he manipulation of tuber production? What do you have to do?
Thanks
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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2012, 11:00:50 AM »
In a couple of week when the flowers are going over on my plants and if the leaves are still green and fresh I carefully lift the plants and very carefully twist off next years tuber. This years tuber is brown but next years is off white. Do not break off the growing tip while doing this360137-0
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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2012, 12:56:21 PM »
Thank you very much Mark. It looks easy.

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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2012, 02:43:09 PM »
Very easy
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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2012, 02:51:59 PM »
Mark

I think you forgot to mention you have to replant the old stem and keep it growing as long as possible in the hope it will produce another tuber. This usually works but there is a risk of introducing disease into the wound on the new tuber and also the old stem. Not a risk I would take with my sole plant.

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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2012, 07:22:40 PM »
This orchid was selected and named by the late Gerry Munday from memory.
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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2012, 10:34:54 AM »
Mark

I think you forgot to mention you have to replant the old stem and keep it growing as long as possible in the hope it will produce another tuber. This usually works but there is a risk of introducing disease into the wound on the new tuber and also the old stem. Not a risk I would take with my sole plant.

Not being one to take my own advice I took the new tuber off my one plant of Eskimo Nell(it looks flowering size) in July and yesterday seeing the replanted stem had died off I tipped it out. There is one new large tuber and two small ones.
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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2012, 10:39:34 AM »
Not being one to take my own advice I took the new tuber off my one plant of Eskimo Nell(it looks flowering size) in July and yesterday seeing the replanted stem had died off I tipped it out. There is one new large tuber and two small ones.
Success! It is what Ian has been doing/advising for years.
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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2012, 11:24:25 AM »
Well done Tony!

My variegated fuchsii is now 4. The parent plant had produced two new tubers for next year. I removed these. I just went out to check and there are two new ones but they are small. The old tuber is still fresh so they will hopefully grow.
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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2012, 03:04:42 PM »
Hello Tony,

congratulations, that's very good news. May I join the waiting list, please, for when you eventually feel you can part with one? ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2013, 09:24:39 PM »
2013 is in my orchids-madness definitely dedicated to Dactylorhiza, because of that I'm trying to collect as much information as possible about this group of plants. There is no problem with botanical species but hybrids of garden origin - here is nothing easy. That's the reason I registered myself on this forum – because Scotland and Ireland have extraordinary position "in the world of Dactylorhiza". In my opinion flowers of "Eskimo Nell" are looking more similar to Dactylorhiza maculata (var.leucantha??) than fuchsii. First question is - did someone have both of them: fuchsii and "Eskimo Nell" in the garden and can compare flowering time??? In theory, maculata tends to bloom a bit later then fuchsii.
This orchid was selected and named by the late Gerry Munday from memory.

-Brian, could you please tell us more about Gerry Munday?

I would like to show a couple of pictures that I found today on the forum of Saint-Petersburg Orchid Society /Russia  http://spolo.ru/orchids_nwr_eng.html .  All are taken in area of city Vyborg  (close to Finnish border) on 22 of July 2009 and 15 of July 2012. Unique relict of pine forest with moist thickets of birch and rowan with European blueberry, Marsh Labrador tea, sedges (typically acidic conditions) – and thousands flowers of Dactylorhiza maculata.






And between them  - this:



I think, “Eskimo Nell” could be one of many orchids, maybe generations ago taken from the wild and later re-discovered in one of thousands of British gardens.
Regards -
Kristof
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Re: Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2013, 07:01:27 PM »
The "Eskimo Nel2l I have judged at Peterborough for the past two years definitely looked exactly like a white d maculata

 


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