Crocus November 2012

[Gerry Webster]

Crocus robertianus Unidentified species

I now think this plant may be a poor form of C. cancellatus subsp mazziaricus. Compare this picture of the bract & bracteole with that by TonyG here:

http://www.thealpinehouse.fsnet.co.uk/crocus%20pages/cancellatus%20mazziaricus.htm

Are you there Tony?

[Gerry Webster]

Crocus wattiorum in flower today

Very handsome Tony.

[tonyg]

I now think this plant may be a poor form of C. cancellatus subsp mazziaricus. Compare this picture of the bract & bracteole with that by TonyG here:

http://www.thealpinehouse.fsnet.co.uk/crocus%20pages/cancellatus%20mazziaricus.htm

Are you there Tony?

Yes!  And, yes I think you could be right.  Corm tunic would be reticulated so somewhat like robertianus.  I wouldn't be too unkind about it, not so much 'poor' as less well off!

[ian mcenery]

Very late season here

cartwrightianus from seed in the frame with tournefortii on the left and
A nice laevigatus in the open garden and

assumaniae from a generous friend- thanks

[John Aipassa]

My cartwrightianus Purple Heart isn't selected by me. I baught in in UK where I saw this form at some show in UK, but I gave name to it (at moment can't remember who gave it to me - too bad weather outside for going to greenhouse for label checking). By intensity of color it is close to C. mathewii best forms. Antoines 'Purple Heart' were named later and it was decided that most likely it is hybrid between hadriaticus and cartwrightianus. It is paler by throat colour. Still there are two clones included - one darker, another paler. I still didn't succeed to clean completely my stock from paler form. Yesterday dug out two more plants. Both are nice, but I prefair darker one.
Janis

Janis, I am a bit confused and hope you can help me. My following crocus 'Purple Heart' has a very dark throat and tube and resembles some best forms of mathewii. So is it the UK cartwrightianus 'Purple Heart' or is it Hoog's hadriaticus x 'Purple Heart' (with the label saying so)? 

If you can't give a clue, than it is no problem. I enjoy the beauty of it .

[Luc Gilgemyn]

Whatever it is, it looks gorgeous, John ! 

[John Aipassa]

Yes it does Luc and a promising good garden Crocus. Flowering proliferous and quite weather resistent .

[pontus]

My crocus medius (ligusticus) planted in the garden are now in full bloom...

they seem in better shape than the ones in pots...Could someone tell me if these also show signs of virus?

perhaps it was pot culture that they did not like?

I think there is at least 1 of the corms in the ground which has no virus...what do you think?

Pontus

[Gerry Webster]

Pontus - difficult to say. The top pic looks OK but the bottom one looks slightly suspicious to my eyes - white streaks on petals? C. ligusticus grows well in pots with me.

[Armin]

Ian,
you have a very nice form of C. cartwrightianus raised from seed. Congratulations!
The C. leavigatus is a beauty too, nice markings outside.

John,
from just comparing images I'd say you have a x hadriaticus 'Purple Heart'.

But if you would have claimed it is a nice form of a C. mathewii I guess nobody would complain
The optical differences from top view are marginal except maybe that C. hadriaticus usually flowers with leaves...

[John Aipassa]

Thanks Armin. It indeed resembles nice forms of mathewii if I compare it on photos so I am certainly not complaining  .

It is better looking than any of my mathewii I have so far, except from Crocus mathewii 'Brian Mathew', a selected beautiful mathewii form by Janis. I hope to show a photo soon, because it is about to flower. Hopefully the weather will be helpful too. Sunny days this week so keeping my fingers crossed to show it. The first flower of it this season was eaten by a slug before I could take a suitable photo of it  .

[ian mcenery]

Ian,
you have a very nice form of C. cartwrightianus raised from seed. Congratulations!
The C. leavigatus is a beauty too, nice markings outside.

Thanks Armin yes cartwrightianus can be very  attractive and variable

[krisderaeymaeker]

Very late season here
cartwrightianus from seed in the frame with tournefortii on the left and
A nice laevigatus in the open garden and
assumaniae from a generous friend- thanks

Never mind by the late season Ian . They look good and healthy. Like Armin said , very good forms indeed. 

[krisderaeymaeker]

Whatever it is, it looks gorgeous, John ! 

I agree with Luc . Stunning John !

[Janis Ruksans]

Janis, I am a bit confused and hope you can help me. My following crocus 'Purple Heart' has a very dark throat and tube and resembles some best forms of mathewii. So is it the UK cartwrightianus 'Purple Heart' or is it Hoog's hadriaticus x 'Purple Heart' (with the label saying so)? 

If you can't give a clue, than it is no problem. I enjoy the beauty of it .

On attached pictures you can see cartwrightianus Purple Heart as it was in show where I saw it for the first time
On next the same in my collection
Then hadriaticus Purple Heart and
mathewii Dream Dancer (white anthers are not typical - some development problem) - so you can see that yours is hadriaticus x Purple Heart
and at end Crocus hyemalis.
Janis