Crocus November 2012

[ronm]

The commercially available form of C. ligusticus is sterile.

Why?

[Gerry Webster]

Look at the anthers - depauperate

[ronm]

Are they all the same??

[daveyp1970]

Crocus goulimyi at Areopoli and
Crocus niveus at Pyrgos

Lovely Niveus Tony

[Janis Ruksans]

You are the first who doesn't claim 'Zephyr' to be Crocus pulchellus.
I wonder whether the origin of 'Zephyr' is known.
Its habitus, flowering season and hardiness are identical to
Crocus speciosus, it differs solely in its coloration.
I considered it to be an apochromous mutant of Crocus speciosus,
because of its beige seeds, but recently Janis Rukšans described a new
variety of Crocus speciosus which is not apochromous and has
beige seeds and white anthers if I understood the description correctly.
'Zephyr' might be an apochromous mutant of var. ibrahimii
which might be a separate species because of the beige seeds.
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9528.msg256142#msg256142
The unusually strong winter killed my Crocus pulchellus, and
Crocus 'Oxonian' too, which is probably a sterile hybrid
and not Crocus speciosus, I cultivated it for forty years,
but 'Zephyr' remained absolutely untouched.
 'Zephyr' breeds truly.

Zephyr is hybrid. Its seedlings clearly split in speciosus and pulchellus.
Janis

[Great Moravian]

Zephyr is hybrid. Its seedlings clearly split in speciosus and pulchellus.
Janis

Thanks.

[Thomas Huber]

I advise you to throw them away. Even if they don't infect other plants, the flowers will never look good. Virus-free stock is available in the UK & North America though not easy to find; the only UK nursery I know which had a stock closed some years ago.

A virusfree form of Crocus ligusticus Millesimo is offered in Dirk Schnabels list.
He has posted a photo of his plants here:
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9630.msg257892#msg257892


Edit by maggi to add exact link to post with photo 

[Pauli]

Hello,

Crocuns niveus is always one of the last in my collection!

[Janis Ruksans]

Another Greek Crocus speciosus - this case from most S located population, although of different color style by other features identical with N population.
Janis

[bulborum]

Who can tell me where to find the list of Dirk Schnabels

Roland

[Maggi Young]

Who can tell me where to find the list of Dirk Schnabels

Roland

I don't think I have Dirk's list this year, Roland, but you could email him ( "Udo" on the Forum)  to ask him.

[daveyp1970]

Hello,

Crocuns niveus is always one of the last in my collection!

Lovely Pauli mine are not flowering yet.

[bulborum]

I don't think I have Dirk's list this year, Roland, but you could email him ( "Udo" on the Forum)  to ask him.

Thanks Maggie

I mailed him

Roland

[hadacekf]

My last flowering crocus (self seedling) in garden.

Crocus-longiflorus
Crocus-tournefortii
Crocus-pulchellus

[pehe]

Franz,
What a lovely form of pulchellus! I like the contrast of almost white colour with dark veins.

Poul