Crocus trip to Crete from 20 -27 november 2011

[krisderaeymaeker]

Some more pictures ....And some of them look even like tournefortii when I see the pictures now ....Very difficult again ...

[krisderaeymaeker]

Some other plants in this area ....

[krisderaeymaeker]

Some more Crocus ....boryi ?

[krisderaeymaeker]

I was a sunny but windy and cold day ....but good weather to make al this pictures ...

[Gerry Webster]

Some more pictures ....And some of them look even like tournefortii when I see the pictures now ....Very difficult again ...

Some more Crocus ....boryi ?

Kris - very interesting photos. May I suggest that you try to borrow a copy of  The Crocus by Brian Mathew? He has a detailed discussion of C. boryi & C. tournefortii on Crete, their distribution  & probable hybrids between them.

[krisderaeymaeker]

Kris - very interesting photos. May I suggest that you try to borrow a copy of  The Crocus by Brian Mathew? He has a detailed discussion of C. boryi & C. tournefortii on Crete, their distribution  & probable hybrids between them.

Thanks Gerry . That's what I already done ....but I don't had an occasion to look at it ...

[Gerdk]

Also another very attractive Sternbergia just beside of the road . 

Kris, was the majority of the Sternbergias over at the time of your visit?

Gerd

[krisderaeymaeker]

Kris, was the majority of the Sternbergias over at the time of your visit?
Gerd

Hi Gerd , I think that october is a better month for Sternbergia ....But we stil see a lot of Sternbergia in flower . It depends also  on the location .On some locations the most flowers are over but on other locations we are at the right time. Another thing,   I think they spread there flowering time a bit and that's a good solution in nature.
But if only would go for Sternbergia I choose october ... 

[Janis Ruksans]

In 2006 from 8-13th of October I saw only 2 clumps of Sternbergia at very start of blooming.
Janis

[Gerdk]

Kris & Janis:
Thanks for advices. It seems the start of flowering time for autumn bulbs depends on
the first powerful rains combined with dropping temperatures in a repective year.

Gerd

[krisderaeymaeker]

Kris & Janis:
Thanks for advices. It seems the start of flowering time for autumn bulbs depends on
the first powerful rains combined with dropping temperatures in a repective year.
Gerd

I think that's right Gerd . But also elevation,habitat ( and maybe more) have more or less influence.But another thing ....I think that Sternbergia is a bulb that have a very quick reaction on mositure ! I think it reacts faster then other bulbs (Crocus,Colchicum eg) on the changing circumstances (from dry to moist).   

[krisderaeymaeker]

Some more Crocus ....boryi ?

Hummm , not many ideas about this ?    And I stil have to show more difficult ones to identify .....

[Janis Ruksans]

I think that's right Gerd . But also elevation,habitat ( and maybe more) have more or less influence.But another thing ....I think that Sternbergia is a bulb that have a very quick reaction on mositure ! I think it reacts faster then other bulbs (Crocus,Colchicum eg) on the changing circumstances (from dry to moist).

Temperarture is even most important - many autumn crocuses bloom in boxes as well as Colchicums, Sternbergias - before planting of them and watering.
Another aspect is "inner clock" - I had Crocus speciosus stock which allways bloomed in box at end of July or start of August when temperatures still are high and air dry. Similar are C. suworovianus and some others. Earlier about this wrote Oron explaining early blooming of autumn crocuses in desert before serious dropping of temperature and long before autumn rains started.
Janis

[krisderaeymaeker]

Temperarture is even most important - many autumn crocuses bloom in boxes as well as Colchicums, Sternbergias - before planting of them and watering.
Another aspect is "inner clock" - I had Crocus speciosus stock which allways bloomed in box at end of July or start of August when temperatures still are high and air dry. Similar are C. suworovianus and some others. Earlier about this wrote Oron explaining early blooming of autumn crocuses in desert before serious dropping of temperature and long before autumn rains started.
Janis

Oh yes , it is complicated Janis . I suppose that  they sometimes needs a mix from different aspects to wake up again...
And Oron told me lately (discussion weekend 2012)that the dropping of night temperature the most important aspect is concerning temperatures ....

[krisderaeymaeker]

Again some Crocus from the Crocus boryi area ...But with some other appearance ....