Galanthus 'Jacquenetta' or 'Jaquenetta' ?

[Wim Snoeijer]

Galanthus 'Jacquenetta' or 'Jaquenetta' ?

I need help as some convincing references used the spelling 'Jaquenetta'. But with the article in The Garden, January 2013, by John Grimshaw I do not know anymore. Grimshaw uses 'Jacquenetta', see page 32. With his status I am sure Grimshaw is correct. Is he?

To help, included some references with page number.

Many thanks indeed for your help.

Wim

[Brian Ellis]

I had always thought it was Jacquenetta Wim, but I don't grow it!  However, as it is of Greatorex origin and like most of his snowdrops, named after  a Shakespearean character, I suppose one should refer to Love's Labours Lost where the character is Jaquenetta.

[mark smyth]

I Googled Jacquenetta and it came up with both.

[Wim Snoeijer]

Thank you Brian and Mark, for your help and attention.

I did a search on the internet as well and found that both Wikipedia as Encyclopedia Brittanica refer to Jaquenetta (without the c). But google either spelling and indeed it provide loads of internet websites.

So, I think for my records I maintain the spelling 'Jaquenetta' (without the c). Question remains why Grimshaw uses the c while in "Snowdrops" the spelling is without the c?

Thanks again.

Wim

[Maggi Young]

Wim, I rather think that Jacquenetta is the correct version.

As Brian says the derivation is from Shakespeare so that name with the "c" seems proper given the origin of the snowdrop.
I believe all the others to be merely an error in  copying over time : with a name that has "tricky" components such as this one, that is not uncommon!

[Lvandelft]

The only way avoiding a problem like this in future is to register a name officially.
Just thinking of all other bulbs like tulips, narcissus, crocus, lilies, etc. etc.
Since all these bulbs have registered names in databases there are no conflicts about the names.

[Brian Ellis]

Wim, I rather think that Jacquenetta is the correct version.

As Brian says the derivation is from Shakespeare so that name with the "c" seems proper given the origin of the snowdrop.
I believe all the others to be merely an error in  copying over time : with a name that has "tricky" components such as this one, that is not uncommon!

Oh dear Maggi, in Love Labour's Lost Jaquenetta is 'a country wench', there is, as I said, no 'c' in her name.

[Brian Ellis]

The only way avoiding a problem like this in future is to register a name officially.
Just thinking of all other bulbs like tulips, narcissus, crocus, lilies, etc. etc.
Since all these bulbs have registered names in databases there are no conflicts about the names.

By the way, Luit, I think Greatorex would have difficulty registering his snowdrops However, like most of the snowdrop growers in this country - and I suspect elsewhere, we regard the authority as Bishop et al's monograph where it also appears without a 'c', but as John Grimshaw was also involved with that I thought it best to go straight back to Shakespeare himself.

[Maggi Young]

Oh dear Maggi, in Love Labour's Lost Jaquenetta is 'a country wench', there is, as I said, no 'c' in her name.

  Crikey.... I must be losing it.....  I think of it as with the "c" - must look out my ancient copy and "see" what it says!

[Lvandelft]

By the way, Luit, I think Greatorex would have difficulty registering his snowdrops

Brian, I agree with this of course. In those days there were much less snowdrop collectors.

 It doesn't matter to me where names are registered, it's just essential to do it. That is my point of view   

[Wim Snoeijer]

Thanks to you all for your interest. For the nomenclature it is always best to go back to the original publication, as Brian suggests, also prescribed by the ICNCP. To confess honestly, I do not know anything about Shakespeare but read on a website that he never published his plays, they were published after his death??? So there is no publication by Shakespeare in the first place???

I also remember from previous issues of the ICNCP that confusing names should not be accepted for cultivar names. But I cannot find the article anymore in the present 2009 issue.

Registration is a good idea to be certain that the cultivar name is according the ICNCP and names that has been registered can be found on the KAVB website

http://kavb.back2p.soft-orange.com/kavb/kavbSG.nsf/plants-registered?OpenView&Start=1&Count=18&Expand=1&RestrictToCategory=-G-#1

Hope the link will work. But there is no law that says you have to register your name with the ICRA.

Thanks again.

Wim